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Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang

Postby Guy in Shorts » Jan 25th, '18, 20:59

f.a.s.t. wrote:
madhatter wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:FINALLY-THE REAL CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING-IT'S ABOUT TIME THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT?


IT'S ALL CAUSED BY SANDWICHES!!!!!!!!!!


https://newatlas.com/sandwiches-global-warming/53128/
no more or less serious of a threat than anything else thus far...it's ALL that ridiculous...

You know that some way and some how, US tax dollars paid for this study.

Just imagine the impact of all the sandwiches that SnoBrdr has gotten for Humpty.
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Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang

Postby Mister Moose » Jan 25th, '18, 22:03

Guy in Shorts wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:FINALLY-THE REAL CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING-IT'S ABOUT TIME THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT?


IT'S ALL CAUSED BY SANDWICHES!!!!!!!!!!


https://newatlas.com/sandwiches-global-warming/53128/

Just imagine the impact of all the sandwiches that SnoBrdr has gotten for Humpty.


Overall, making your sandwiches at home potentially halves the carbon emissions compared to their prepackaged equivalents.

I've seen those evil cellophane sandwiches at KBL. They must've been causing the r*in.
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Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang

Postby Sgt Eddy Brewers » Jan 25th, '18, 22:27

Mister Moose wrote:
Guy in Shorts wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:FINALLY-THE REAL CAUSE OF GLOBAL WARMING-IT'S ABOUT TIME THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE FINALLY FIGURED IT OUT?


IT'S ALL CAUSED BY SANDWICHES!!!!!!!!!!


https://newatlas.com/sandwiches-global-warming/53128/

Just imagine the impact of all the sandwiches that SnoBrdr has gotten for Humpty.


Overall, making your sandwiches at home potentially halves the carbon emissions compared to their prepackaged equivalents.

I've seen those evil cellophane sandwiches at KBL. They must've been causing the r*in.


How dare you hillbillies mock this serious scientific finding. THIS is real science and anyone who doubts it probably doubts the moon landing. It is actual peer-reviewed activist hippy science,...I mean consensus c=science!
Understanding the impact on climate change of convenience food: Carbon footprint of sandwiches
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... via%3Dihub

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Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang

Postby Sgt Eddy Brewers » Feb 8th, '18, 13:12

There is No sea level rise and the IPC “scientists” are activist frauds!

A great Article where a top researcher on Sea Levels claims there is No increase in sera level rise (he claims there is currently NO sea level at all!) Translated from German.

https://bazonline.ch/wissen/natur/diese ... y/29438610

Headlines :
These researchers have a political agenda
The oceanographer Nils-Axel Mörner opposes the IPCC and the warnings of sinking islands.


Money Quotes:
I've been researching sea-level changes my entire life, traveling to 59 countries. Hardly any other researcher has so much experience in this field.

The IPCC relies in particular on questionable computer models rather than field research.

We checked these data - with the result that they are of very poor quality. One row is influenced by the fact that docks were built on loose sediment near the measuring station, which could have changed tidal heights. For the other series, the measuring station was even moved locally. The researchers who rely on such data are office workers. They are not specialized in coastal dynamics processes and sea level changes. Many of them have no idea of the real conditions.

We were able to prove that the sea level in Fiji from 1550 to about 1700 was about seventy centimeters higher than it is today. Then it sank and was about fifty centimeters lower in the 18th century than it is today. Then he rose to about the current level. In the last 200 years, the level has not changed significantly. For the past 50 to 70 years he has been absolutely stable.

Were you surprised?
Not really. It was not the first time that the claims of the IPCC turned out to be wrong.

Why are many climate researchers warning about sinking islands?
Because they have a political agenda. They are biased by the interpretation that man is causing climate change, and that is a threat. The IPCC was founded with the purpose of representing man-made climate change and of warning against it. His goal was thus fixed from the beginning. And he sticks to it like a dogma - no matter what the facts are. As a specialist in sea level developments, in recent years I have consistently found that the IPCC team does not include a single expert on this issue.

What triggered you to distance yourself from the warnings of manmade climate change?
In 1991, I gave a scientific presentation at a conference on sea level changes in the US. The representative of the IPCC present there responded with great anger to my points of view. This reaction surprised me. Because in science circles is true that you listen to each other and debate on different points of view. As a result, I noticed more and more that the IPCC disseminates completely false information and also adheres to obvious mistakes. I then published a paper on the influence of the sun on the sea level, behind which 19 recognized experts. But the IPCC attacked the work with outrageous claims and caused the scientific journal in which it was published to be discontinued.

You can not stop me. I have published about 650 scientific papers to date. But young colleagues who think critically have no chance given the manipulations. Basically, most science magazine publishers no longer accept work that goes against the claims of the IPCC, regardless of the quality of the work.
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Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang

Postby rogman » Feb 13th, '18, 14:08

Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:There is No sea level rise and the IPC “scientists” are activist frauds!
Blah, blah, blah...

More unhinged than usual, even for you. Where do you find these 80 year old geezers? Can you find anyone that's actually up to date on current sci/tech that agrees with you, or is it just living fossils? TBH, I was ignoring this post of yours, but saw the National Academy of Sciences just published this in their Proceedings, figured I'd pass it along. Prediction: You will learn nothing from it.
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2018/02/06/1717312115.full.pdf
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Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang

Postby Mister Moose » Feb 13th, '18, 22:03

rogman wrote: Where do you find these 80 year old geezers?

Hey now. I don't know about you, but I plan on skiing at 80 and when I get there I'd appreciate not being called a geezer.

Younger than Humpty,

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Re: Science Rant, Not politics: Can CO2 cause "Climate Chang

Postby Sgt Eddy Brewers » Feb 14th, '18, 16:07

rogman wrote:
Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:There is No sea level rise and the IPC “scientists” are activist frauds!
Blah, blah, blah...

More unhinged than usual, even for you. Where do you find these 80 year old geezers? Can you find anyone that's actually up to date on current sci/tech that agrees with you, or is it just living fossils? TBH, I was ignoring this post of yours, but saw the National Academy of Sciences just published this in their Proceedings, figured I'd pass it along. Prediction: You will learn nothing from it.
http://www.pnas.org/content/pnas/early/2018/02/06/1717312115.full.pdf



Can you find anyone that's actually up to date on current sci/tech that agrees with you, or is it just living fossils?

Well heck yeah...just hard to know where to stop there is just SO MUCH "peer reviewed" science published lately that contradicts the "consensus."
For instance: Anthropogenic CO2 warming challenged by 60-year cycle from Earth-Science Reviews
Volume 155, April 2016, Pages 129-135

an analysis of 60 cycle in ocean exchange that suggests the role of Anthropogenic CO2 in sea level rise is NOT DETECTABLE.

Will read your article when I get a chance. Thanks.....just wanted to remind you with my response....

THERE REALLY IS NO ACTUAL CONSENSUS IN CLIMATE SCIENCE.

We are still trying to understand the dynamics of the earth's climate system. NOT settled science.
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