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Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby jbkmart » Sat May 05, 2012 8:56 pm

Apparently it's begun according to Chris Nyberg's twitter feed.
"A 2 summer project"
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Chardonnay Queen » Sun May 06, 2012 9:01 am

Will any of it be accessible in the meantime?
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Ski_the_Moguls » Sun May 06, 2012 1:51 pm

Any word on other summer projects? Are they installing the new Snowdon HSQ this summer or did that get pushed back also?
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Spyderman » Sun May 06, 2012 7:58 pm

Absolutely no new chairlifts after the worst revenue season in probably 15-20 years. Need to pull in the resorts belt to perform only essential projects that are affordable. Anticipate a new chairlift for 2013/2014 ski season and the new Peak Lodge.
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Big Bob » Sun May 06, 2012 9:50 pm

Spyderman wrote:Absolutely no new chairlifts after the worst revenue season in probably 15-20 years. Need to pull in the resorts belt to perform only essential projects that are affordable. Anticipate a new chairlift for 2013/2014 ski season and the new Peak Lodge.



Add to that the "lease Issues" out in Park City...Lawyers don't come cheap!
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Geoff » Sun May 06, 2012 9:50 pm

Spyderman wrote:Absolutely no new chairlifts after the worst revenue season in probably 15-20 years. Need to pull in the resorts belt to perform only essential projects that are affordable. Anticipate a new chairlift for 2013/2014 ski season and the new Peak Lodge.


I'd be really surprised if they built the peak lodge and installed a lift in the same year. Depending on what happens with the Park City Mountain Resort lease with Talisker and Canyons, a replacement Peak Lodge might be the last big project we see out of POWDR. At a minimum, the lease at PCMR will go up from $150K to millions. I'd bet Park City Mountain Resort is also forced to allow an interconnect with revenue sharing as part of the lease terms. That is unlikely to benefit PCMR since they see so many more skier visits than Canyons. Their Copper Mountain investment can't be going well. Colorado had a crap year until March and Copper got much less snow than the Vail empire. This could very well be ASC v2.0 where operating profit from Killington is used to prop up other poor performing corporate investments.
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Spyderman » Sun May 06, 2012 10:03 pm

Geoff

Sad but true! No SRT South Ridge Triple either for years!
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby realreddy » Sun May 06, 2012 11:10 pm

Geoff wrote:
Spyderman wrote:Absolutely no new chairlifts after the worst revenue season in probably 15-20 years. Need to pull in the resorts belt to perform only essential projects that are affordable. Anticipate a new chairlift for 2013/2014 ski season and the new Peak Lodge.


I'd be really surprised if they built the peak lodge and installed a lift in the same year. Depending on what happens with the Park City Mountain Resort lease with Talisker and Canyons, a replacement Peak Lodge might be the last big project we see out of POWDR. At a minimum, the lease at PCMR will go up from $150K to millions. I'd bet Park City Mountain Resort is also forced to allow an interconnect with revenue sharing as part of the lease terms. That is unlikely to benefit PCMR since they see so many more skier visits than Canyons. Their Copper Mountain investment can't be going well. Colorado had a crap year until March and Copper got much less snow than the Vail empire. This could very well be ASC v2.0 where operating profit from Killington is used to prop up other poor performing corporate investments.



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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Marc Shepherd » Mon May 07, 2012 9:04 am

Ski_the_Moguls wrote:Any word on other summer projects? Are they installing the new Snowdon HSQ this summer or did that get pushed back also?

"Pushed back" would be the wrong word, because they never said or suggested it would be done this year.

In fact, Nyberg told AlpineZone:
The Snowdon Quad will not be replaced next summer, our capital funds will be tied up in finishing the new Peak Facility. We certainly hope to replace this lift in the next several years with a high speed quad.
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby skiadikt » Mon May 07, 2012 12:04 pm

Spyderman wrote:Geoff

Sad but true! No SRT South Ridge Triple either for years!


if indeed it's gonna take 2 summers for the peak lodge to be completed and the snowdon quad replacement is after that (2014-15). then that would be the earliest we'd see a srt replacement. i'm afraid years could turn into ever. they may just say we've done without it for 4-5 yrs, why bother ...
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby skifaster » Mon May 07, 2012 1:59 pm

skiadikt wrote:
Spyderman wrote:Geoff

Sad but true! No SRT South Ridge Triple either for years!


if indeed it's gonna take 2 summers for the peak lodge to be completed and the snowdon quad replacement is after that (2014-15). then that would be the earliest we'd see a srt replacement. i'm afraid years could turn into ever. they may just say we've done without it for 4-5 yrs, why bother ...


They never should have demo'd it, until ready for its replacement.
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby Geoff » Mon May 07, 2012 2:16 pm

skifaster wrote:
skiadikt wrote:
Spyderman wrote:Geoff

Sad but true! No SRT South Ridge Triple either for years!


if indeed it's gonna take 2 summers for the peak lodge to be completed and the snowdon quad replacement is after that (2014-15). then that would be the earliest we'd see a srt replacement. i'm afraid years could turn into ever. they may just say we've done without it for 4-5 yrs, why bother ...


They never should have demo'd it, until ready for its replacement.
Idiots.


I would imagine that the SRT required some very expensive maintenance and that's why they opted to pull it out. It would have never run again.
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby jimmywilson69 » Mon May 07, 2012 2:16 pm

skifaster wrote:They never should have demo'd it, until ready for its replacement.
Idiots.


It had all but fallen down. The plan was to have it done for winter of this year, but Irene cancelled all of the pre-work they were to do last fall.
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby realreddy » Tue May 08, 2012 10:46 am

Killington has become an old stale mountain with no new
features to attract the ski and stay visitor. They continue to recycle the
same old, same old. But what have they done lately. NOT A THING.
The mountain has no buzz about upgrades or new features. The Umbrella
bar is nice but even that would have not been done if Irene did not force their hand.
Even if next year is a good snow season I don't think Killington will see any record numbers.
The vacation week skier and families are going to go to mountains that are not
stuck in the 1980's like Killington is. They want new, modern lifts and facilities and
well thought out off mountain activities for the families.
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Re: Peak Lodge Excavation

Postby skifaster » Tue May 08, 2012 11:12 am

realreddy wrote:Killington has become an old stale mountain with no new
features to attract the ski and stay visitor. They continue to recycle the
same old, same old. But what have they done lately. NOT A THING.
The mountain has no buzz about upgrades or new features. The Umbrella
bar is nice but even that would have not been done if Irene did not force their hand.
Even if next year is a good snow season I don't think Killington will see any record numbers.
The vacation week skier and families are going to go to mountains that are not
stuck in the 1980's like Killington is. They want new, modern lifts and facilities and
well thought out off mountain activities for the families.


while I agree with some of your thoughts. Killington's trail system cant handle high speed quads everywhere.
This is why I am against a new high speed snowdon lift, dumping skiers at three times the rate onto the same trail system. Can you say cluster f and everything ski'd off by 10am... Look at the cluster f the peak is on Boomerang, oh sorry "great northern" and down to Cascade... They have there place, but it is a nicer ski experience for all when it was just the K double, for many, many reasons. A Quad would have been better.
So be very careful what you wish for. If you want super wide, groomed highways go to Okemo, Stratton etc...
I will take the old K any day over what has evolved.
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