T R U M P vs. Hillary - who wins?

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Socialist highways :?: Because something is built with public funds it's socialist? :-) :-) You're just making this stuff up with no...(I'll stop it's Thanksgiving) Happy Thanksgiving to all the folks I converse with here. I enjoy reading your opinions.
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I really can't figure Trump out. How did he become so wealthy being an immature jackass. I guess he has surrounded himself by yes men his whole life and doesn't have much experience in the real world. Every week he does something unexplainably stupid. Does he really think he can become president doing this crap? If he had cleaned up his act after a couple he could have recovered. Now he's toast. He dropped 12 points in a nationwide poll recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran as a third party and gave the election to cankel cow.
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freeski wrote:Socialist highways :?: Because something is built with public funds it's socialist? :-) :-) You're just making this stuff up with no...(I'll stop it's Thanksgiving) Happy Thanksgiving to all the folks I converse with here. I enjoy reading your opinions.
Because simple minded cons like yourself and steamboat like to use lame ass talking points like that meme and throw Sanders under the bus for being a "socialist" when all he's calling for is greater investment in programs that benefit the nation such as single payer healthcare and affordable college. There are numerous publicly funded aspects of our society; roads being one of them.

Single payer health is more affordable than private. Dozens of examples around the world prove this out.

Affordable college means a more educated workforce better capable of competing in the global economy.

At least he and Hillary aren't calling on the all mighty Jesus to return this nation to glory like most of the joke Republican candidates.
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freeski wrote:Socialist highways :?: Because something is built with public funds it's socialist? :-) :-) You're just making this stuff up with no...(I'll stop it's Thanksgiving) Happy Thanksgiving to all the folks I converse with here. I enjoy reading your opinions.
Because simple minded cons like yourself and steamboat like to use lame ass talking points like that meme and throw Sanders under the bus for being a "socialist" when all he's calling for is greater investment in programs that benefit the nation such as single payer healthcare and affordable college. There are numerous publicly funded aspects of our society; roads being one of them.

Single payer health is more affordable than private. Dozens of examples around the world prove this out.

Affordable college means a more educated workforce better capable of competing in the global economy.

At least he and Hillary aren't calling on the all mighty Jesus to return this nation to glory like most of the joke Republican candidates.
You don't need to put socialist in quotes when talking about Sanders. Competition in healthcare is the best way to keep costs down. We send too many people to college as it is. That's why many can not find jobs. A college degree is not a right.
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Only an absolute moron would argue we send too many people to college. I suppose you think we should get rid of public high school as well.

You lap up the GOP propaganda with the worst of them freeski. I deal in facts. FACT most single payer healthcare systems around the world have an expense of 11% GDP. US is around 18% with our privitized system. Adopting a single payer system would deliver TRILLIONS in savings annually as a cost to society. Dozens of examples of countries prove it if you bothered to read.

Your road building ancestors weren't fighting "socialist" northern European nations. You confuse Bernie's brand of socialism with fascism and communism. Get a clue.
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Dear God No.
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deadheadskier wrote:Only an absolute moron would argue we send too many people to college. I suppose you think we should get rid of public high school as well.

You lap up the GOP propaganda with the worst of them freeski. I deal in facts. FACT most single payer healthcare systems around the world have an expense of 11% GDP. US is around 18% with our privitized system. Adopting a single payer system would deliver TRILLIONS in savings annually as a cost to society. Dozens of examples of countries prove it if you bothered to read.

Your road building ancestors weren't fighting "socialist" northern European nations. You confuse Bernie's brand of socialism with fascism and communism. Get a clue.
I don't believe a single payer healthcare system is possible in the U.S. Our doctors make too much money. I think that all children up to say 21 should be guaranteed healthcare; after that you should be on your own.

You're consuming too much political propaganda which is out there because of the up coming election. There will never be free college or free healthcare for all in the U.S. we can't afford it. All of the liberal dreams are dreams.
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“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
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steamboat1 wrote:“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
― Margaret Thatcher
Yep, and it removes the natural human drive to succeed.
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freeski wrote:I really can't figure Trump out. How did he become so wealthy being an immature jackass. I guess he has surrounded himself by yes men his whole life and doesn't have much experience in the real world. Every week he does something unexplainably stupid. Does he really think he can become president doing this crap? If he had cleaned up his act after a couple he could have recovered. Now he's toast. He dropped 12 points in a nationwide poll recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran as a third party and gave the election to cankel cow.
It's a campaign strategy, he's giving the base what they want and they're eating it up. Has nothing to do with being wealthy or a jackass. If he's surrounded himself with "yes men" his whole life then something tells me he wouldn't be very successful because his people would comply with everything he says (and he's a jackass, remember?). Good leaders, IMHO, can effectively bring together/manage people that are smarter than they are to build/grow a business. The POTUS should be a leader. We've seen what happens when we elect someone who isn't.
deadheadskier wrote:Only an absolute moron would argue we send too many people to college. I suppose you think we should get rid of public high school as well.
Everyone deserves, and currently has, an opportunity to go to college. However, college is not a fit for everyone and I'm sure there are many who attended only to find they couldn't find gainful employment. Many found jobs in roles where a college degree is not necessary. Nearly 40% of students in a 4-year degree program haven't graduated by their 6th year.

You like to cite "dozens of examples around the world" when it comes to single-payer health, but what about colleges? Lets use Germany or one of the scandinavian countries as an example. I'm generalizing, but students are tracked and segregated based on their performance in grades K through 8 and nearly 50% will be channeled to vocational schools. They get to go to advanced school for "free", but some will not get the chance to go to "college" based on their grades. Is this the structure you want? It's certainly succeeded because Scandinavian countries generally score at the top in testing. Something tells me splitting those "high performers" from the "average student" wouldn't sit well with the American public.
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freeski wrote:I really can't figure Trump out. How did he become so wealthy being an immature jackass. I guess he has surrounded himself by yes men his whole life and doesn't have much experience in the real world. Every week he does something unexplainably stupid. Does he really think he can become president doing this crap? If he had cleaned up his act after a couple he could have recovered. Now he's toast. He dropped 12 points in a nationwide poll recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran as a third party and gave the election to cankel cow.
You mean how Trump is currently polling at 35% on average, or 20%+ better than anyone else...?

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Highway Star wrote:
freeski wrote:I really can't figure Trump out. How did he become so wealthy being an immature jackass. I guess he has surrounded himself by yes men his whole life and doesn't have much experience in the real world. Every week he does something unexplainably stupid. Does he really think he can become president doing this crap? If he had cleaned up his act after a couple he could have recovered. Now he's toast. He dropped 12 points in a nationwide poll recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran as a third party and gave the election to cankel cow.
You mean how Trump is currently polling at 35% on average, or 20%+ better than anyone else...?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... op-primary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm voting for him in the NH primary.
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freeski wrote:
Highway Star wrote:
freeski wrote:I really can't figure Trump out. How did he become so wealthy being an immature jackass. I guess he has surrounded himself by yes men his whole life and doesn't have much experience in the real world. Every week he does something unexplainably stupid. Does he really think he can become president doing this crap? If he had cleaned up his act after a couple he could have recovered. Now he's toast. He dropped 12 points in a nationwide poll recently. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran as a third party and gave the election to cankel cow.
You mean how Trump is currently polling at 35% on average, or 20%+ better than anyone else...?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... op-primary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm voting for him in the NH primary.
Why do you think he's the best Republican candidate running for office?
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He is an outstanding manager and can accomplish his goals. We need someone from outside the political system. I agree with what he says about other nations taking advantage of us and they need to pull their own weight. He has a record of completing projects at or below cost and within deadlines. There is a lot of waste in our government and if the Republicans control congress he can cut federal spending. I'd love to see him fire a third of the blotted bureaucracy. Plus he'd be a fun president. I'm sick of the PC culture and he is the antithesis of it.

President Trump: "Cuba is a small country, very small. I can't believe how small it is and believe me they are poor and lazy. Cuba is a dump..."

I'd love to see Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon's face when they announce he won. :D
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mach es sehr schnell

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