Separate issue completely from that raised by freeski, who challenged the procedure itself by saying "If your baby needs to come out of a test tube you probably don't need one whether you're gay or straight" then going on to lump Elton John, Kate plus 8 and the Octomom all into the same basket.madhatter wrote:personally I am neither for or against that procedure, but I'm not so fond of insurance ( that draws its premiums from people like me) that pays for any of it...it's elective...If you want that coverage it s/b extra... or paid for completely out of pocket...Bubba wrote:Nothing like using the extremes to justify denial to everyone else. There are thousands of couples using IVF every year that you don't hear about that are quite normal but have problems conceiving naturally for one reason or another.freeski wrote:After Kate plus 8 and Octomom I'm not a strong supporter. If you have to use a lab maybe you should just give up. What do you think about the new 3 parent babies in the UK?Bubba wrote:Really? You're opposed to IVF for couples that have issues?freeski wrote: If your baby needs to come out of a test tube you probably don't need one whether you're gay or straight. Elton shouldn't be a father too much of a freak.
I guess my real problem with this whole thing is Elton trying to come across as though using a surrogate is normal and anyone who doesn't agree with him is immoral. When it's Elton that's pushing the moral envelope.
I also don't go for that Frisbee Golf.
By the way, not every insurance policy covers IVF. So, if you don't want to pay for it in your insurance, make sure your policy doesn't cover it. Of course, that same policy might not cover some procedures you may need either.