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Bubba wrote:
freeski wrote:
Coydog wrote:
Bubba wrote: There is a big difference between saying Muslim Agenda and Muslim Extremists' Agenda and the fact that you didn't initially see the difference (you figured everyone knew what you meant) speaks volumes
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He wouldn't have changed the title if he wasn't aware of that. :roll:

When you see polls (and I admit you can't tell the accuracy and there may be an agenda behind them) that show many more Muslims living in the U.S. would like to live under Sharia Law than you would expect you're lead to believe they don't want to assimilate and hold onto their fundamentalist values. We do have honor killings in the U.S. although they are rare.

So, how many Syrians do you think we should let in?
He became aware of it only after the comments posted. He assumed everyone knows "Muslim Agenda" translates into "Muslim Extremist Agenda", a pretty bold assumption given some of his posts in other threads. No matter...he's changed it now and clarified the statement.

As for how many Syrians should be let into this country, I have no idea. You have to realize, however, that we already have Syrian immigrant communities here (albeit limited) and that additional immigrants can, with reasonable ease, assimilate into those communities and into American society.

See:

Where Syrian Refugees Are Likely to Settle in the U.S.
And why they’re likely to be a boon rather than a burden to these cities.

http://www.citylab.com/work/2015/09/whe ... us/404698/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's an excerpt:

Syrians could benefit their new homes in many ways

Syrians tend to have high levels of education and a varied skill-set. This puts them at an advantage in the American job market, especially compared with lower-skilled refugees from other countries.

Of course, they will go through an adjustment period. They may face language barriers and their degrees may not translate to the American job market. To get back up on their feet, they might need help from state and non-profit service providers for a while. But Capps predicts the Syrians will soon be in a position to contribute to the economy.

"There could be some bumps on the road. Like the experience of a lot of other refugees recently who are highly skilled, many of the Syrians may wind up in some low-wage jobs that are not commensurate with the social status they had before,” Capps says. “But because of high educational attainment in general and high past job skills attainment, my assumption and hope would be that they would rise in the labor market relatively quickly."
When you read the excerpt from above it leads you to believe that the Syrians will be a great addition to the U.S. :D
However none of this is true. :sad:
Europe is starting to put the breaks on the wave coming in as they realize everyone is claiming to be from Syria and fraud and crime are coming with them. The people of Syria are well educated? No evidence suggests this is true.
We need to set up s safe haven in Syria with other allies, but the region is so destabilized it may be too late. Obama has no right to criticize Putin for propping up the government. This is in his backyard and the Muslims have been causing problems in Russia for decades. If Putin wants to fight ISIS more power to him.
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'It's classic Putin': Russia's big move in the Middle East goes beyond Syria

Russian, Syrian, and Iranian military advisors are building a coordination cell in Baghdad in an effort to bolster the Iranian-backed Shia militias fighting the Islamic State in northern Iraq, Western intelligence sources told Fox News.

The move comes as Russia builds up its military presence in Syria and raises questions about what role, if any, Russian president Vladimir Putin intends to take on in Iraq.

"Moscow’s argument in the case of Syria" — that Russian support is to counter terrorism — "could also be valid in the case of Iraq," the Orient Advisory Group wrote in its weekly Middle East Briefing.

"Baghdad can also 'invite' the Russians to fight ISIL there," the note continues, using an alternative name for Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, and Daesh).

"The Russians can say then that they thought that there is a need for a wider coalition to fight what they see as a national security threat."

Moscow got this ball rolling in May when Putin met with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to discuss weapons transfers and intelligence sharing to quell ISIS' presence in Iraq and stop its advance towards Baghdad.

Iranian Quds force commander Qassem Soleimani — who has been operating in Iraq for years and recently travelled to Moscow — met with the militias (and, intelligence officials believe, with Russian military advisors) in Baghdad on Tuesday.

Tony Badran, a research fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies, thinks the coordination between Russia and Iran in Iraq is "perfectly sensible."

"The Russians have to work with Iran inside Iraq in order to use Iraq's airspace to transport weapons and refuel planes en route to Syria," Badran told Business Insider.

"And Russia is of course trying to leverage the entire intervention as a way to lap up as much real estate in the Middle East as possible," Badran added. "It's classic Putin."

On Monday, a US official told the Wall Street Journal that the Russian buildup in western Syria is being coordinated with the Iranians. Reports have emerged that the Russians are now using an airbase in Hamadan, Iran, to refuel their cargo planes and fighter jets en route to Syria.

And if Russia's ultimate aim in Syria is to establish a foothold from which to project power in the region — and to challenge America's influence in the region — it is not out of the question that Putin would test the waters in Iraq as well.

"Putin is very good at sticking a wet finger in the breeze," Cliff Kupchan, a Russia and Iran specialist at Eurasia Group, told Business Insider. "He takes a step, looks around, and takes another step. He is a very tactical, rather than a strategic, thinker."

Even so, Kupchan noted, Iraq may be outside of Russia's sphere of ambition.

"It's probable that there is coordination between the two [Russia and Iran], but a military coordination cell sounds like a stretch too far," said Kupchan, who worked for the State Department under Clinton.

"If anything, though, it's a good talking point, especially when Russia wants to change the subject on Ukraine."

In pushing himself to the forefront of an "anti-ISIS coalition" and creating a distraction from Ukraine, Putin has coerced the US into accepting — and potentially embracing — Russia's role in the conflict.

"It's hard to argue with a guy who seems to be loading up bombs to drop on ISIS," Kupchan noted.

Russia also hopes that presenting itself as an anti-ISIS heavyweight in the region will convince the West to roll back its sanctions over Ukraine. Putin is expected to say as much when he addresses the UN General Assembly in New York on Monday.

"An opportunistic pursuit of national interests lies at the heart of Russia’s Middle Eastern strategy," Yaroslav Trofimov wrote in the Wall Street Journal earlier this week.

"Atop them is the goal of reviving Russia’s economy, dependent on energy exports—and hit by the double whammy of cheap oil and Western economic sanctions imposed after last year’s invasion of Ukraine."

Whether and how far Putin will go in building a military presence in Iraq remains to be seen. But doing so would likely serve at least one of Russia's key interests: undermining the US.

"Too often policy analysts debate whether the Kremlin is strategic or merely tactical in its approach to foreign policy. But the answer doesn’t matter," Eerik-Niiles Kross and Molly K. McKew wrote in Politico this week.

"They don’t need a master plan when one clear strategic objective drives decision-making: make the U.S. the enemy—and make them look weak."
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How was the weather in Arizona this weekend Atomic? Did you enjoy the rallies?


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deadheadskier wrote:How was the weather in Arizona this weekend Atomic? Did you enjoy the rallies?


http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/g ... fb-premium" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The food was really good. My only complaint is it was too crowded. Seemed like most of the country was there. :-)
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Did you run into Madhatter? Pretty sure that's him in the green hat next to the women with the pink shirt.
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deadheadskier wrote:Did you run into Madhatter? Pretty sure that's him in the green hat next to the women with the pink shirt.
absolutely positive that you are a complete imbecile....
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Not worthy of a new thread, but you always hear Hindus worship cows and some appear pretty serious about it (see attached article). Why do they worship cows? Cows are nice and all. They provide some good stuff: milk, cheese, cheese burgers, but I have a hard time understanding the worship part. Hopefully they also have a real god and are not just worshipping the cows. At least they are peaceful. I guess Hilary will get the Hindu vote.


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They don't worship cows. It's about what the cow represents to them.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:They don't worship cows. It's about what the cow represents to them.
You're right. Maybe this makes more sense than I thought. They are a very peaceful religion and I respect that.

In the religion of Hinduism, the animal called a "cow" is thought to be sacred, or very holy. Most Hindus respect the cow for her gentle nature which represents the main teaching of Hinduism, non-injury (ahimsa). The cow also represents ghee and strength. The cow is very honored in society, and most Hindus do not eat beef (the meat that come from cows). By honoring this gentle animal (living thing that is not a plant) that gives more than it takes, Hindus honor all creatures. The cow was possibly revered because Hindus relied heavily on it for dairy products and for tilling the fields, and on cow dung as a source of fuel and fertilizer. Thursday , the cow’s status as a 'caretaker' led to identifying it as an almost maternal figure (hence the term gau mata). In the olden days cattle being limited to select few fortunate folks, the cows enjoyed the status that gold or money enjoys today. In addition, it has been suggested by author and orator Terence McKenna that religious reverence for the cow is a result of early humankind's association of psilocybin mushroom with it, this association having developed as a result of the discovery of said mushrooms in the animal's excrement.[1] Lastly, the Cow is a beautiful creature. :)
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In all seriousness, after reading through some of the basic tenants of the Hindu religion it makes a lot more sense than others I know about.
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freeski wrote:In all seriousness, after reading through some of the basic tenants of the Hindu religion it makes a lot more sense than others I know about.
Do people rent Hinduism? :wink: I think you mean tenets.
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freeski wrote:
deadheadskier wrote:How was the weather in Arizona this weekend Atomic? Did you enjoy the rallies?


http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/g ... fb-premium" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The food was really good. My only complaint is it was too crowded. Seemed like most of the country was there. :-)

That article was written by a women named Sarah Raslan . Not surprised that she is a Muslim with an agenda....carry on...
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Bubba wrote:
freeski wrote:In all seriousness, after reading through some of the basic tenants of the Hindu religion it makes a lot more sense than others I know about.
Do people rent Hinduism? :wink: I think you mean tenets.
Words can be tricky. :shock:
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