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madhatter wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... 3-one-day/

9 Killed, 55 Shot in Chicago — 33 in One Day, Marking Worst Day of Shootings in a Year
That's not a race war, it's just natural selection, Chi-raq style.
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Obama brought his " ghetto " from Chicago to Washington to help spread it throughout the United States and really it's been his biggest accomplishment as now the entire world is one big ghetto of violence !
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Atomic1 wrote:Obama brought his " ghetto " from Chicago to Washington to help spread it throughout the United States and really it's been his biggest accomplishment as now the entire world is one big ghetto of violence !
Well then he's been an abject failure at spreading "ghetto" throughout the United States as violent crime has continued to drop under his presidency. Fact, not opinion.

His foreign policy has much to scrutinize, but the domestic crime statistics do not back up your claims.
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Ghetto politics obviously.

Hillabeast has learned well.
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deadheadskier wrote:
Atomic1 wrote:Obama brought his " ghetto " from Chicago to Washington to help spread it throughout the United States and really it's been his biggest accomplishment as now the entire world is one big ghetto of violence !
Well then he's been an abject failure at spreading "ghetto" throughout the United States as violent crime has continued to drop under his presidency. Fact, not opinion.

His foreign policy has much to scrutinize, but the domestic crime statistics do not back up your claims.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

And we know it's up in Chi-raq.

Would like to see your "facts".
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SnoBrdr wrote:
deadheadskier wrote:
Atomic1 wrote:Obama brought his " ghetto " from Chicago to Washington to help spread it throughout the United States and really it's been his biggest accomplishment as now the entire world is one big ghetto of violence !
Well then he's been an abject failure at spreading "ghetto" throughout the United States as violent crime has continued to drop under his presidency. Fact, not opinion.

His foreign policy has much to scrutinize, but the domestic crime statistics do not back up your claims.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

And we know it's up in Chi-raq.

Would like to see your "facts".
Seriously?

Aren't you a former cop? This isn't information that is difficult to find.

Crime has dropped in virtually every category since 2009; a continuation of a trend that has gone back to 1994.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The crime rates of today make the US look like a third world in the 80s and early 90s.
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deadheadskier wrote:
SnoBrdr wrote:
deadheadskier wrote:
Atomic1 wrote:Obama brought his " ghetto " from Chicago to Washington to help spread it throughout the United States and really it's been his biggest accomplishment as now the entire world is one big ghetto of violence !
Well then he's been an abject failure at spreading "ghetto" throughout the United States as violent crime has continued to drop under his presidency. Fact, not opinion.

His foreign policy has much to scrutinize, but the domestic crime statistics do not back up your claims.
http://www.latimes.com/local/california ... story.html

And we know it's up in Chi-raq.

Would like to see your "facts".
Seriously?

Aren't you a former cop? This isn't information that is difficult to find.

Crime has dropped in virtually every category since 2009; a continuation of a trend that has gone back to 1994.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The crime rates of today make the US look like a third world in the 80s and early 90s.
You really don't have a clue about crime stats do you.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/vnrp0610pr.cfm

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/ ... ews=844943

Those were found with a simple Google search.

Throw in the fact that based on the last FBI press conference of note, they obviously do their master's bidding and if the master wants the crime stats to go down, that's what they do.

To think otherwise is naive.
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If your theory holds true that FBI data is inaccurate, then I hope you believe that was also true under both Bushes, Clinton and Reagan.

I call bull crap
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deadheadskier wrote:If your theory holds true that FBI data is inaccurate, then I hope you believe that was also true under both Bushes, Clinton and Reagan.

I call bull crap
I started distrusting the FBI under Hoover, it hasn't gotten any better.

The FBI is a political animal.
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http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2 ... -usual.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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As researchers are quick to point out, FBI data on police shootings by race is notoriously incomplete, which may explain why Peter Moskos, assistant professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York, decided to use figures from the website Killed by Police.

Based on that data, Mr. Moskos reported that roughly 49 percent of those killed by officers from May 2013 to April 2015 were white, while 30 percent were black. He also found that 19 percent were Hispanic and 2 percent were Asian and other races.

His results, posted last week on his blog Cop in the Hood, arrived with several caveats, notably that 25 percent of the website’s data, which is drawn largely from news reports, failed to show the race of the person killed.

Killed by Police lists every death, justified or not, including those in which the officer had been wounded or acted in self-defense.

“The data doesn’t indicate which shootings are justified (the vast majority) and which are cold-blooded murder (not many, but some). And maybe that would vary by race. I don’t know, but I doubt it,” Mr. Moskos said on his blog.

Adjusted to take into account the racial breakdown of the U.S. population, he said black men are 3.5 times more likely to be killed by police than white men. But also adjusted to take into account the racial breakdown in violent crime, the data actually show that police are less likely to kill black suspects than white ones.

“If one adjusts for the racial disparity in the homicide rate or the rate at which police are feloniously killed, whites are actually more likely to be killed by police than blacks,” said Mr. Moskos, a former Baltimore cop and author of the book “Cop in the Hood.”

“Adjusted for the homicide rate, whites are 1.7 times more likely than blacks die at the hands of police,” he said. “Adjusted for the racial disparity at which police are feloniously killed, whites are 1.3 times more likely than blacks to die at the hands of police.”

Mr. Moskos listed two possible reasons for the racial disparity. The first is that police assigned to largely black neighborhoods face “more political fallout when they shoot, and thus receive better training and are less inclined to shoot.”

The second is that police assigned to black communities with high crime rates are more accustomed to dangerous situations and thus are more likely to be able to resolve them without resort to lethal force.
Moskos's analysis assumes the killings by police are justified and so he completely misses the point - people are deeply concerned about unjustified killings, especially those seemingly targeted at black communities. On this he only offers his opinion, but it stands to reason if black communities experience more contact with the police, more unjustifiable killings by the police will result. Also, it seems to me even if we accept his assumptions, Moskos (most likely unintentionally) shows for a given police contact resulting in a civilian death, white males are 30% to 70% more likely than black males to engage in the type of threatening behavior that compels the police to justifiably use deadly force.
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[quote="Coydog]
Moskos's analysis assumes the killings by police are justified and so he completely misses the point - people are deeply concerned about unjustified killings, especially those seemingly targeted at black communities. On this he only offers his opinion, but it stands to reason if black communities experience more VIOLENT, ARMED contact with the police, more unjustifiable killings by the police will result. Also, it seems to me even if we accept his assumptions, Moskos (most likely unintentionally) shows for a given police contact resulting in a civilian death, white males are 30% to 70% more likely than black males to engage in the type of threatening behavior that compels the police to justifiably use deadly force.[/quote]
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(CNN)Violent crime is on the rise so far this year in major cities across the US compared to the number of homicides, rapes, robberies, assaults and shootings that occurred in the same cities by this point in 2015, a new report has found.


http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/ ... index.html
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