Refugees coming to Rutland

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Highway Star wrote:Furthermore, the USA (English Settlement) was carved out of North America in direct competition with the native population, plus France and Spain over a period of hundreds of years. Nobody "just showed up" to be supported by the state.

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So the British, French and Spanish governments did support the majority of people who came to the new world.

Start with Columbus and work forward and it looks a lot different that what you are saying.
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Whose side is the government on :?: Do you think most Americans want muslim terrorists coming in and paying huge amounts of money to do so? On top of the cost there's the security concern. So why does the government want them here?
Also, why aren't many of the rich Middle East countries taking ANY in?
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freeski wrote:Whose side is the government on :?: Do you think most Americans want muslim terrorists coming in and paying huge amounts of money to do so? On top of the cost there's the security concern. So why does the government want them here?
Also, why aren't many of the rich Middle East countries taking ANY in?
No one wants terrorists of any kind to come to the USA.

Maybe you should remember this: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Maybe you should check to see what the country of Jordan has done, as well as all the people that Germany has taken in.
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SnoBrdr wrote: blah blah You are a sad, little guy who thinks nothing more blah blah blah.

I see little people?
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The negativity on this issue is stunning, and depressing. Bottom line is this.

Your chances of getting injured in a terrorist attack perpetrated by a Syrian refugee is next to zero. The chance of one of these folks restarts their lives by opening an awesome falafel shop on the Access Road is greater than 50%.

I vote for falafel. :like
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SnoBrdr wrote:
Highway Star wrote:Furthermore, the USA (English Settlement) was carved out of North America in direct competition with the native population, plus France and Spain over a period of hundreds of years. Nobody "just showed up" to be supported by the state.

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So the British, French and Spanish governments did support the majority of people who came to the new world.

Start with Columbus and work forward and it looks a lot different that what you are saying.
Please point out where colonies were formed as a welfare state?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_Bay_Colony" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds like a pretty tough life where everyone works. Oh and you get to fight with the natives.

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I don't see anything here about unskilled refuges being supported by the state?
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Most of the people who arrived during the first 12 years emigrated from two regions of England. Many of the colonists came from the county of Lincolnshire and East Anglia, northeast of London, and a large group also came from Devon, Somerset, and Dorset in the southwest of England. These areas provided the bulk of the migration, although colonists also came from other regions of England.[85] The pattern of migration often centered around specific Nonconformist clergy who sought to leave England under threat from Archbishop Laud, who encouraged their flock to accompany them.[86] One characteristic unique to the New England colonies (as distinguished from some of the other English colonies) was that most of the immigrants were emigrating for religious and political reasons, rather than economic ones.[87]

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"Give me your poor, uneducated, violent masses who will never assimilate and hate you to your core. Yearning to destroy your culture, way of life and chop off your head."

Those who say "Well chances are you'll never be blown up are a$$hats" It's a stupid argument. :shock:
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freeski wrote:"Give me your poor, uneducated, violent masses who will never assimilate and hate you to your core. Yearning to destroy your culture, way of life and chop off your head."

Those who say "Well chances are you'll never be blown up are a$$hats" It's a stupid argument. :shock:
They also never had a family member killed by Muslim terrorist, their head cut off or body blown up, their blood spilling out onto our streets. They never had a wife or daughter brutally raped and murdered by an illegal Mexican and left to die a horrific and painful death.
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I feel for the persecuted. That being said. As a tax payer why the hell should I finance immigration? This country has enough problems. How about they stop giving out narcan to the crackheads and junkies. Let them dwindle in numbers first. How about America takes care of itself first before importing terrorists and criminals. This country is screwed.
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f.a.s.t. wrote:
freeski wrote:"Give me your poor, uneducated, violent masses who will never assimilate and hate you to your core. Yearning to destroy your culture, way of life and chop off your head."

Those who say "Well chances are you'll never be blown up are a$$hats" It's a stupid argument. :shock:
They also never had a family member killed by Muslim terrorist, their head cut off or body blown up, their blood spilling out onto our streets. They never had a wife or daughter brutally raped and murdered by an illegal Mexican and left to die a horrific and painful death.
Are you talking about the experience passed down by your family members.

Those brave immigrants who murdered the natives.
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As far as the Indians, at least in the beginning, it was kill or be killed wasn't it? People look back and think "what peaceful people living in harmony with nature". The truth is they were often at war with their rival tribes. At least the Indians were smart enough to recognize immigrants with different values were a threat to their way of life unlike some on this board.

"Hey, I know whitey wants to kill us, butt let's have some come live with us. We can give them a free teepee, food and monthly wampum". What could go wrong... :|
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freeski wrote:As far as the Indians, at least in the beginning, it was kill or be killed wasn't it? People look back and think "what peaceful people living in harmony with nature". The truth is they were often at war with their rival tribes. At least the Indians were smart enough to recognize immigrants with different values were a threat to their way of life unlike some on this board.

"Hey, I know whitey wants to kill us, butt let's have some come live with us. We can give them a free teepee, food and monthly wampum". What could go wrong... :|

Your ignorance and racism just keeps shining thru.

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SnoBrdr wrote:
freeski wrote:As far as the Indians, at least in the beginning, it was kill or be killed wasn't it? People look back and think "what peaceful people living in harmony with nature". The truth is they were often at war with their rival tribes. At least the Indians were smart enough to recognize immigrants with different values were a threat to their way of life unlike some on this board.

"Hey, I know whitey wants to kill us, butt let's have some come live with us. We can give them a free teepee, food and monthly wampum". What could go wrong... :|

Your ignorance and racism just keeps shining thru.

Amazing that you can even ski with your knuckles on the ground.
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Yup :like :like
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SnoBrdr wrote:
freeski wrote:Whose side is the government on :?: Do you think most Americans want muslim terrorists coming in and paying huge amounts of money to do so? On top of the cost there's the security concern. So why does the government want them here?
Also, why aren't many of the rich Middle East countries taking ANY in?
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Maybe you should remember this: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

Maybe you should check to see what the country of Jordan has done, as well as all the people that Germany has taken in.
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