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Still, yeah .. what happens when the Secret Service reduces Drumph family protection due to the $60M shortfall.
Perhaps the Border Wall should get constructed around 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

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brownman wrote:Still, yeah .. what happens when the Secret Service reduces Drumph family protection due to the $60M shortfall.
Perhaps the Border Wall should get constructed around 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

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find the left's favorite program, and gut it...give the SS a raise and then take the leftover money and buy some cheeto dust and taco bowls...WIN, WIN....same thing that happened the last hundred or so times the left cried wolf...
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Has Trump Overplayed a Losing Hand in His First Legislative Test?
By Rob Garver and Eric Pianin
March 22, 2017

https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/03/ ... ative-Test" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Bubba wrote:Has Trump Overplayed a Losing Hand in His First Legislative Test?
By Rob Garver and Eric Pianin
March 22, 2017

https://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/03/ ... ative-Test" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
more wishful thinking...

first it's NOT trump's bill he didn't write, craft, or sponsor it though he has had some involvement in negotiations and has tried to garner support for it...

second it's not a good bill and it's unlikely that a good bill will arise either as the task of obamacare was never about people but about power...

third letting obamacare fail on it's own is far more beneficial to the R's so ultimately who cares? many R's only want repeal anyway...if you can blame all the woes on the obstructionist D's all the better....

the same whiny crybabies we've seen whining and crying about anything and everything since November will continue to whine and cry about anything and everything, who cares...
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.. 3 swings and whiffed :dislike

1. Gump's main 'involvement' has been attempting to strong-arm folks whose congressional seats are not in jeopardy whatsoever.
2. So, the sour grapes strategy is what you're going with. :lol:
3. He can't even rally support within his party .. GOP mastered obstructionism for years. All the Dems need to do now is sit back and laugh.

The Deal Maker may soon be wishing for a complete 'do-over' from Day 1. :sad:

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brownman wrote:.. 3 swings and whiffed :dislike

1. Gump's main 'involvement' has been attempting to strong-arm folks whose congressional seats are not in jeopardy whatsoever.
2. So, the sour grapes strategy is what you're going with. :lol:
3. He can't even rally support within his party .. GOP mastered obstructionism for years. All the Dems need to do now is sit back and laugh.

The Deal Maker may soon be wishing for a complete 'do-over' from Day 1. :sad:

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you've said ( wished) this a thousand times since long before the election...wrong every time too...
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I don't think they could even pass a straight repeal law these days. It was easy when they knew Obama wouldn't sign it. This is bad for Trump. Par for the course for Congress.
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freeski wrote:I don't think they could even pass a straight repeal law these days. It was easy when they knew Obama wouldn't sign it. This is bad for Trump. Par for the course for Congress.
D's put so much sand in the vaseline ( by design) that it can never be completely removed...
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03 ... -says.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.

The FBI hasn’t been responsive to the House Intelligence Committee’s request for documents, but the National Security Agency is expected to produce documents to the committee by Friday. The NSA document production is expected to produce more intelligence than Nunes has so far seen or described – including what one source described as a potential “smoking gun” establishing the spying.

Some time will be needed to properly assess the materials, with the likely result being that congressional investigators and attorneys won’t have a solid handle on the contents of the documents – and their implications – until next week.

Because Nunes’s intelligence came from multiple sources during a span of several weeks, and he has not shared the actual materials with his committee colleagues, he will be the only member of the panel in a position to know whether the NSA has turned over some or all of the intelligence he is citing. However, Fox News was told Intelligence Committee Ranking Member Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., had been briefed on the basic contents of the intelligence described by Nunes.

CIA Director Mike Pompeo is also sympathetic to the effort to determine, with documentary evidence, the extent of any alleged Obama administration spying on the Trump team, sources said.

At a dramatic Wednesday news conference, Nunes claimed to have seen evidence that members of the Trump transition team, possibly including the president-elect, were subjected to “incidental surveillance” collection that Nunes characterized as legal but troubling.

“What I've read bothers me,” he told reporters, “and I think it should bother the president himself, and his team because I think some of it seems to be inappropriate.”

Schiff blasted Nunes for not coming first to the Intelligence Committee with the information.

"If accurate, this information should have been shared with members of the committee, but it has not been," Schiff said in a Wednesday statement.


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yep everyone but the terminally stupid knew this was the case...we're gonna need a bigger gallows...
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/p ... .html?_r=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Trump's ultimatum: If vote fails, Obamacare stays
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madhatter wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/p ... .html?_r=1

Trump's ultimatum: If vote fails, Obamacare stays
and here all along I believed you that Trump is a leader :roll:

... should have done tax cuts first!
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
madhatter wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/us/p ... .html?_r=1

Trump's ultimatum: If vote fails, Obamacare stays
and here all along I believed you that Trump is a leader :roll:

... should have done tax cuts first!
what more can he do? as far as I understood it the obamacare reconciliation bill had to happen first or not at all...
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-2 ... tage-trump" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Devin Nunes just set the cat down among the pigeons.

Two days after FBI Director James Comey assured us there was no truth to President Trump’s tweet about being wiretapped by Barack Obama, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee said Trump may have had more than just a small point.

The U.S. intelligence community, says Nunes, during surveillance of legitimate targets, picked up the names of Trump transition officials during surveillance of targets, “unmasked” their identity, and spread their names around, virtually assuring they would be leaked.

If true, this has the look and smell of a conspiracy to sabotage the Trump presidency, before it began.

Comey readily confirmed there was no evidence to back up the Trump tweet. But when it came to electronic surveillance of Trump and his campaign, Comey, somehow, could not comment on that.

Which raises the question: What is the real scandal here?

Is it that Russians hacked the DNC and John Podesta’s emails and handed them off to WikiLeaks? We have heard that since June.

Is it that Trump officials may have colluded with the Russians?

But former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and ex-CIA Director Mike Morrell have both said they saw no evidence of this.

This March, Sen. Chris Coons walked back his stunning declaration about transcripts showing a Russia-Trump collusion, confessing, “I have no hard evidence of collusion.”

But if Clapper and Morrell saw no Russia-Trump collusion, what were they looking at during all those months to make them so conclude?

Was it “FBI transcripts,” as Sen. Coons blurted out?

If so, who intercepted and transcribed the conversations? If it was intel agencies engaged in surveillance, who authorized that? How extensive was it? Against whom? Is it still going on?

And if today, after eight months, the intel agencies cannot tell us whether or not any member of the Trump team colluded with the Russians, what does that say of their competence?

The real scandal, which the media regard as a diversion from the primary target, Trump, is that a Deep State conspiracy to bring down his presidency seems to have been put in place by Obamaites, and perhaps approved by Obama himself.

Consider. On Jan. 12, David Ignatius of the Washington Post wrote,

“According to a senior U.S. government official, (Gen. Michael) Flynn phoned Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak several times on Dec. 29, the day the Obama administration announced the expulsion of 35 Russian officials … What did Flynn say?”
Now, on Dec. 29, Flynn, national security adviser-designate, was not only doing his job calling the ambassador, he was a private citizen.

Why was he unmasked by U.S. intelligence?

Who is this “senior official” who dropped the dime on him? Could this official have known how many times Flynn spoke to Kislyak, yet not known what was said on the calls?

That is hard to believe. This looks like a contract hit by an anti-Trump agent in the intel community, using Ignatius to do the wet work.

Flynn was taken down. Did Comey turn his FBI loose to ferret out the felon who had unmasked Flynn and done him in? If not, why not?

In today’s Wall Street Journal, Dan Henninger points anew to a story in The New York Times of March 1 that began:

“In the Obama administration’s last days, some White House officials scrambled to spread information about Russian efforts to undermine the presidential election — and about possible contacts between associates of President-elect Trump and Russians — across the government.”
“This is what they did,” wrote Henninger, quoting the Times:

“At intelligence agencies, there was a push to process as much raw intelligence as possible into analyses, and to keep the reports at a relatively low classification level to ensure as wide a readership as possible across the government — and, in some cases, among European allies.”
For what benign purpose would U.S. intelligence agents spread secrets damaging to their own president — to foreign regimes? Is this not disloyalty? Is this not sedition?

On Jan. 12, writes Henninger, the Times “reported that Attorney General Loretta Lynch signed rules that let the National Security Agency disseminate ‘raw signals intelligence information’ to 16 other intelligence agencies.”

Astounding. The Obamaites seeded the U.S. and allied intel communities with IEDs to be detonated on Trump’s arrival. This is the scandal, not Trump telling Vlad to go find Hillary’s 30,000 missing emails.

We need to know who colluded with the Russians, if anyone did. But more critically, we need to unearth the deep state conspiracy to sabotage a presidency.

So far, the Russia-connection investigation has proven a dry hole. But an investigation into who in the FBI, CIA or NSA is unmasking U.S. citizens and criminally leaking information to a Trump-hating press to destroy a president they are sworn to serve could prove to be a gusher.

As for the reports of Lynch-White House involvement in this unfolding plot to damage and destroy Trump the real question is: What did Barack Obama know, and when did he know it?
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GUILTY of the espionage act.

Lt. Gen. Thomas Mcinerney weighed in on Devin Nunes' bombshell revelations that said the Trump team were being spied on by the NSA/CIA -- and it wasn't Russia related. The whole cover for the surveillance was supposed to be because Trump had a bunch of Ivans working for him, but that simply wasn't the case, or the concern, inside the Obama White House.

McInerney believes when all of the evidence comes out, Obama will rue the day he decided to spy on Trump. Moreover, he said the democrats are chimping out and fabricating a Russian spy novel in order to avoid Trump investigating the Clinton server and how both Hillary and Obama violated the espionage act, a crime punishable by heavy fines and up to 10 years in prison.


Section 793(f) of the federal penal code (Title 18): With lawful access to highly classified information she acted with gross negligence in removing and causing it to be removed it from its proper place of custody, and she transmitted it and caused it to be transmitted to others not authorized to have it, in patent violation of her trust.
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