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Gen. Michael Flynn

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Resigns after providing "incomplete information" to VP (and others?) about discussions with Russians before inauguration. Discuss.
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Glad Trump did the right thing here. Shows he will listen to reason. Sad to see someone go so fast, butt sometimes you have to drain the swamp.
Also, so the NSA was monitoring him...
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Sounds like he's true to the advice he's given in the past

"You'll find when you become very successful, the people you will like best are the people that are less successful than you, because when you go to a table, you can tell them all these wonderful stories and they'll sit back and listen ... always be around unsuccessful people because everybody will respect you, do you understand that?"

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when it comes to credibility and honesty twpo word come to mind

Susan Rice

set teh bar so low a worm could high jump it w plenty of room to spare...

that said this was battle that was not worth fighting for trump...accept the resignation and move on...

no idea wtf xj is blithering about above? are you trying to say that flynn is an "unsuccessful person"...if so let us all know when you move up to being "unsuccessful" from wherever you are right now...
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Shades of Nixon. "What did the president know and when did he know it?"

https://www.thenation.com/article/what- ... e-know-it/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And Chaffetz needs to grow a spine.

Lol. https://www.facebook.com/andyborowitz/p ... 65835681:0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Another squandered and sophomoric day for the Apprentice. :lol:
More breaches of 'trust' and fallout will come out of the shadows.
Conway next in line. She's a complete dolt and embarrassment.

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The trump train wreck continues!
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Nikoli wrote:The trump train wreck continues!
You wonder about where we'll be in 4 years.

I'm still waiting for ACA / tax reform. Lots of time spent with Japan and next up Israel (and obviously some behind the scenes talk with Russia). For someone that campaigned on America first, you'd think the overdue ACA/tax reform would be priority #1. The ban? What ban? Seems Trump has conceded a loss on that one.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Nikoli wrote:The trump train wreck continues!
You wonder about where we'll be in 4 years.

I'm still waiting for ACA / tax reform. Lots of time spent with Japan and next up Israel (and obviously some behind the scenes talk with Russia). For someone that campaigned on America first, you'd think the overdue ACA/tax reform would be priority #1. The ban? What ban? Seems Trump has conceded a loss on that one.
talk about some skewed vision...he;s been in office less than one month and has accomplished more than pretty much any other during that period...now you may not approve of those things but that doesn;t make your lens any less distorted... ACA and tax reform are complicated tasks and will take months to complete not days...expect a new EO on travel this week...

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madhatter wrote:he;s been in office less than one month and has accomplished more than pretty much any other during that period...now you may not approve of those things but that doesn;t make your lens any less distorted... ACA and tax reform are complicated tasks and will take months to complete not days...expect a new EO on travel this week...
What exactly are those "accomplishments"?
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The resignation of national security advisor Michael Flynn has the anti-Trump media declaring the new administration a "mess," in "turmoil" and thrown into "chaos."

Funny, these same Chicken Littles barely shrugged their shoulders during the turmoil-laden first 100 days of Barack Obama's first term. Some perspective is in order.

Remember the withdrawal of Obama's pick for National Intelligence Council chairman, Charles Freeman, in March 2009? Obama had tapped the former U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia for the sensitive post despite abundant conflicts of interests. Freeman had served for four years on the board of the China National Offshore Oil Corporation, a company owned by the Chinese communist government. The state-owned firm has invested in Sudan and Iran. Freeman also led the Middle East Policy Council, a Washington, D.C.-based group funded by the Saudi government. And he chaired Projects International, a consulting firm that had worked with foreign companies and governments.

Obama knew all that and looked the other way at Freeman's role as a de facto lobbyist for Saudi royalty. Even worse, he ignored Freeman's Jew-bashing and tyrant-coddling record with a Blame America axe to grind. Freeman carped that our country exhibited "an ugly mood of chauvinism" after the 9/11 attacks and condemned his fellow countrymen for connecting the dots of Islam and Saudi-funded jihad: "Before Americans call on others to examine themselves," he fumed with Jeremiah Wright-style bombast, "we should examine ourselves."

In fine form, Freeman inveighed against the "Israel Lobby" in his resignation letter.

The screed said less about Freeman than it did about the Obama administration's AWOL vetting system. Where were the watchdogs to guard against terror-friendly conspiracy-minded kooks slipping into sensitive intelligence positions?

The Freeman withdrawal came after a series of Obama nominee withdrawals that the amnesia-suffering Beltway media has now conveniently forgotten in its haste to declare Trump's transition the worst disaster ever.

By this time in Obama's first term, former Democratic New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson had withdrawn as Commerce Secretary nominee after both liberals and conservatives protested his long record of corruption and incompetence. His political horse-trading with private businesses -- campaign donations for infrastructure projects, patronage jobs and board appointments -- was so notorious it had earned him the moniker "Dollar Bill."

At the time Obama tapped him to lead the Commerce Department, Richardson was the subject of a high-profile probe and ongoing grand jury investigation into whether he traded New Mexico government contracts for campaign contributions. The White House transition team knew about the pay-to-play scandal involving a California company, CDR Financial Products. They knew that the FBI and federal prosecutors had launched a probe of CDR's activities in New Mexico in the summer of 2008. They knew CDR was tied to a doomed bond deal in Alabama, which threatened to cause the biggest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history. They knew CDR had raked in nearly $1.5 million in fees from a New Mexico state financial agency after donating more than $100,000 to Richardson's efforts to register Hispanic and American Indian voters and to pay for expenses at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

It took 33 days before Team Obama threw Richardson and his ethical baggage off the bus.

Richardson's replacement, former GOP Sen. Judd Gregg, accepted and then quickly withdrew after disagreements over Obama's massive federal stimulus proposal and Democrats' politicization of the Census.

Another Beltway barnacle, former Democratic South Dakota Sen. Tom Daschle, was also forced to withdraw from his nomination as Obama's Health and Human Services secretary amid a storm of ethical scandal, conflicts of interest, and tax avoidance. That was compounded by Treasury Secretary Geithner's admission of "tax goofs" involving his failure to pay $43,000 in federal self-employment taxes for four separate years (until, that is, he was tapped for his Obama post). At least five other Treasury staff picks withdrew before the Obama administration had reached the 100-day mark over tax problems, conflicts of interest, bad judgment and records of lax oversight of industry.

By the end of his first 100 days, Obama had set a turnover record for an incoming cabinet with four major withdrawals. And by the hallowed 100-day mark, Obama had announced less than half of the total Senate-confirmed Cabinet department positions he needed to fill, with only 10 approved -- even though the Democrats had an overwhelming majority in the Senate at the time.

Yes, there will be significant bumps in the road and some tough lumps to take as President Trump builds his team. But a dishonest media and preening political establishment pretending there's something "unprecedented" about such stumbles only discredit themselves.
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Gump, draining the swamp to make room for the cesspool.

One afternoon, 3 investigations? The Trump White House’s ominous day.

In the space of a little more than an hour on Tuesday afternoon, life was breathed into three separate and distinct potential investigations of the Trump administration.

First came the independent Office of Government Ethics's recommendation that the White House should investigate Kellyanne Conway's plug of Ivanka Trump's fashion line and “consider taking disciplinary action.” The letter was first tweeted by the House Oversight Committee's Democrats at 2 p.m.

A half-hour later, the Republican chairman of the Oversight Committee, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), announced a letter probing Trump's apparent discussion of sensitive information out in the open this weekend at Mar-a-Lago.

Finally, a little after 3 p.m., Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said it was “highly likely” the Senate would deepen its Russia investigation after now-former national security adviser Michael Flynn's resignation and questions about whether his December discussion of sanctions with Russia's ambassador broke the law.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
madhatter wrote:he;s been in office less than one month and has accomplished more than pretty much any other during that period...now you may not approve of those things but that doesn;t make your lens any less distorted... ACA and tax reform are complicated tasks and will take months to complete not days...expect a new EO on travel this week...
What exactly are those "accomplishments"?
you can start here...

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/26/politics/ ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Coydog wrote:Gump, draining the swamp to make room for the cesspool.

One afternoon, 3 investigations? The Trump White House’s ominous day.

In the space of a little more than an hour on Tuesday afternoon, life was breathed into three separate and distinct potential investigations of the Trump administration.

First came the independent Office of Government Ethics's recommendation that the White House should investigate Kellyanne Conway's plug of Ivanka Trump's fashion line and “consider taking disciplinary action.” The letter was first tweeted by the House Oversight Committee's Democrats at 2 p.m.ooohhhhh...raisin dust...at best...

A half-hour later, the Republican chairman of the Oversight Committee, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah), announced a letter probing Trump's apparent discussion of sensitive information out in the open this weekend at Mar-a-Lago.looks like another bare withered branch that might bear a stunted blossom at best......

Finally, a little after 3 p.m., Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said it was “highly likely” the Senate would deepen its Russia investigation after now-former national security adviser Michael Flynn's resignation and questions about whether his December discussion of sanctions with Russia's ambassador broke the law.
pretty sure trump took office in january...

liberal feast = one raisin and some raisin dust w the potential for a withered blossom looming...chow down...I heard there may be a dried up pea under the toe kick ...
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Why Flynn's Resignation Matters

by David Frum

Stop talking about the Logan Act.

It was not the violation of this antique and ignored piece of anti-Jacobin legislation that has touched off the biggest foreign-policy scandal since Watergate.

Nobody would care if an incoming national security adviser had confidential conversations with an ambassador of a hostile foreign government before Inauguration Day, if it were believed that the conversations served a legitimate and disinterested public purpose.

But that is exactly what is doubted in this case.

To put the story in simplest terms:

1) Russian spies hacked Democratic Party communications in order to help elect Donald Trump.

2) Donald Trump welcomed the help, used it, publicly solicited more of it—and was then elected president of the United States.

3) President Obama sanctioned Russia for its pro-Trump espionage.

4) While Russia considered its response, its ambassador spoke with the national security adviser-designate about the sanctions

5) The adviser, Flynn, reportedly asked Russia not to overreact, signaling that the new administration would review the sanctions; Russia did not respond.

6) As president-elect and then president, Donald Trump has indicated that he seeks to lift precisely those sanctions caused by Russia’s espionage work on his behalf.

All of this takes place against the background of Donald Trump’s seeming determination to align U.S. foreign policy ever closer to Russia’s: endorsing the annexation of Crimea, supporting Russia’s war aims in Syria, casting doubt on the U.S. guarantee to NATO allies, cheering on the breakup of the European Union.

It takes place, too, in the context of Trump’s murky corporate financial obligations to Russian entities. "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Donald Trump Jr. told an investor conference in 2008. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” Exactly how much money is unknown to anyone outside the Trump Organization, because of the president’s repeated refusal to embrace financial transparency. But the pattern of Trump wealth-seeking in Russia has been widely reported, including the multimillion-dollar windfall profit gained from the sale of a Palm Beach mansion to a Russian oligarch at a particularly tense time in the Trump family finances—the same period when he was lending his name to such shabby operations as Trump University and Trump Steaks.

Michael Flynn spoke at the 10th anniversary dinner of Russia’s global propaganda network, RT, in December 2015—after the Russian annexation of Crimea, invasion of mainland Ukraine, and the shooting down of a Malaysian civilian airliner by Russian-backed militias.

Flynn is the third Trump associate to resign because of the revelation of close connections to the Russian state: Paul Manafort and Carter Page preceded him. Will more follow?

The question here is not about the Logan Act: “Did Flynn conduct U.S. foreign policy in a too hasty way, without waiting for his formal swearing in?”

The question is whether a senior American official was compromised by his relationship with a foreign government. And, even more troublingly: Are there others? And even more urgently: How high up the chain of command does Russia’s influence go?
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