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deadheadskier wrote:
madhatter wrote:
deadheadskier wrote:Evacuate a metro area of 25M people how and to where? You realize SK is about the size of Indiana?

If you are so hopped up to do battle have you enlisted yet? What about your kids?
we're just gonna tell idiot libs its a trump protest and send them..free pussy hats for all...
They'd probably put up a better fight than pussy contards like you and freeski who spend all day behind computer screens cheering and jerking off every time draft dodging Donny drops a bomb.
no doubt cuz they'd be the only ones stupid enough to fall for it...so easy to exploit the emotionally charged hate driven left...
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Oh No, someone's been triggered... :P

Seoul must have huge bomb shelters. It's said to see Hawaii is having to get theirs back up and running because of Fat Boy. There are no good options. Wait and hope he's not serious about developing ICBMs :?: When all evidence says he is. He already has nukes and has threatened to wipe out a million Americans. He's also threatened our bases in SK, Japan and Guam; he could probably already nuke them on a good day. I have NO confidence China will ever do anything. But, it makes sense to see if China can resolve this peacefully.

Also, if we did take out the NK military in the south China is not going to let the south rule all of Korea without a fight.

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freeski wrote:Oh No, someone's been triggered... :P

Seoul must have huge bomb shelters. It's said to see Hawaii is having to get theirs back up and running because of Fat Boy. There are no good options. Wait and hope he's not serious about developing ICBMs :?: When all evidence says he is. He already has nukes and has threatened to wipe out a million Americans. He's also threatened our bases in SK, Japan and Guam; he could probably already nuke them on a good day. I have NO confidence China will ever do anything. But, it makes sense to see if China can resolve this peacefully.

Also, if we did take out the NK military in the south China is not going to let the south rule all of Korea without a fight.

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So, if I can summarize your various posts into something coherent, your view is that we should take out North Korea nuclear capabilities militarily but first evacuate Seoul. Then, when the North retaliates, the South should take over the North and they and the US should go to war with China. Got it.
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Secretary Moose's solution:

Hwang Kyo-ahn and Kim Jong Un should meet in the parking lot of Yongpyong Resort, grill some kielbasa and have a few beers.
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Bubba wrote:
freeski wrote:Oh No, someone's been triggered... :P

Seoul must have huge bomb shelters. It's said to see Hawaii is having to get theirs back up and running because of Fat Boy. There are no good options. Wait and hope he's not serious about developing ICBMs :?: When all evidence says he is. He already has nukes and has threatened to wipe out a million Americans. He's also threatened our bases in SK, Japan and Guam; he could probably already nuke them on a good day. I have NO confidence China will ever do anything. But, it makes sense to see if China can resolve this peacefully.

Also, if we did take out the NK military in the south China is not going to let the south rule all of Korea without a fight.

Happy Patriots Day. :-)
So, if I can summarize your various posts into something coherent, your view is that we should take out North Korea nuclear capabilities militarily but first evacuate Seoul. Then, when the North retaliates, the South should take over the North and they and the US should go to war with China. Got it.
You think it's going to be less messy than that? Well, you were right about Turkey being a democracy. Maybe you're right here. Two more aircraft carriers moving to Sea of Japan. Fat Boy says he'll launch a missile a week. It's time we stood up to crazy fat boy.
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Also to clarify, China will go to war with us... Big difference. You think China will allow a democracy at their doorstep? Everyone is saying the Chinese troops being massed on the boarder to keep refugees from going into China. Yea right, that's the only reason they're there.

As far as Turkey, Erdogan started seizing the power granted by the election over the weekend years ago. :-)
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If by pointing out something so utterly stupid as suggesting to evacuate one of the largest cities in the world makes me "triggered" then so be it.

Fat boy isn't going to do a damn thing. All this saber rattling on his part has nothing to do with instigating a fight with SK or the US. It has everything to do with having control over his own people. You think he wants to give up supreme rule of his land? That would be the only outcome of war for him. He also has to worry about revolt from within ending his reign. That's what his weapons program is all about....An internal cold war to keep his people compliant.

The threat NK poses is of small consequence compared to what would happen and the lives lost if we decide to go to war.

But keep on cheering Donny to huck bombs if you're Viagra isn't doing it for you.

What a snowflake....and a dumb one at that.
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any resolution to this involves china as a major player...odds are that it will involve NK as an "independent" puppet state of china, a territory of china or as part of china itself...what's in it for the US besides the ouster of the current regime, if anything, is yet to be determined/disclosed...

unlikely that any deal involves a US puppet state...nor will there be a one korea solution like what occurred in germany...in any case a govt has to be installed as there really isn't any domestic opposition party ready, able or trustworthy enough to take over...seizure or complete destruction of the NK nuclear weapons program would be ideal...
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madhatter wrote:any resolution to this involves china as a major player...odds are that it will involve NK as an "independent" puppet state of china, a territory of china or as part of china itself...what's in it for the US besides the ouster of the current regime, if anything, is yet to be determined/disclosed...

unlikely that any deal involves a US puppet state...nor will there be a one korea solution like what occurred in germany...in any case a govt has to be installed as there really isn't any domestic opposition party ready, able or trustworthy enough to take over...seizure or complete destruction of the NK nuclear weapons program would be ideal...
Conceding the North to China is a good solution. It would be better for us if the whole country was under The Republic of Korea, the South, but that is never going to happen. Hopefully there will be a peaceful solution, but peace needs to be negotiated through strength. I think Trump and his advisors have China's and NK's attention.
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freeski wrote:
madhatter wrote:any resolution to this involves china as a major player...odds are that it will involve NK as an "independent" puppet state of china, a territory of china or as part of china itself...what's in it for the US besides the ouster of the current regime, if anything, is yet to be determined/disclosed...

unlikely that any deal involves a US puppet state...nor will there be a one korea solution like what occurred in germany...in any case a govt has to be installed as there really isn't any domestic opposition party ready, able or trustworthy enough to take over...seizure or complete destruction of the NK nuclear weapons program would be ideal...
Conceding the North to China is a good solution. It would be better for us if the whole country was under The Republic of Korea, the South, but that is never going to happen. Hopefully there will be a peaceful solution, but peace needs to be negotiated through strength. I think Trump and his advisors have China's and NK's attention.
that's what the tea leaves are saying...
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deadheadskier wrote:If by pointing out something so utterly stupid as suggesting to evacuate one of the largest cities in the world makes me "triggered" then so be it.

Fat boy isn't going to do a damn thing. All this saber rattling on his part has nothing to do with instigating a fight with SK or the US. It has everything to do with having control over his own people. You think he wants to give up supreme rule of his land? That would be the only outcome of war for him. He also has to worry about revolt from within ending his reign. That's what his weapons program is all about....An internal cold war to keep his people compliant.

The threat NK poses is of small consequence compared to what would happen and the lives lost if we decide to go to war.

But keep on cheering Donny to huck bombs if you'reyour Viagra isn't doing it for you.

What a snowflake....and a dumb one at that.
indeed... :roll:
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Wow.

You sure got me! Grammar police! Once again proving to be an 11 year old boy. Good show.
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deadheadskier wrote:Wow.

You sure got me! Grammar police! Once again proving to be an 11 year old boy. Good show.
yep gotta talk down to your level for you to comprehend...even then it's a crapshoot... :beat :beat
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Well... The movement of the aircraft carrier to NK was a bluff? It's still no where near the Sea of Japan. Meanwhile, crazy fat boy acts like he wants to die with more retarded threats. I was listening to a guy from a think tank last night and he said it would take weeks to take out NK's artillery and Seoul would be reduced to ashes. He confirmed the worst case scenario is very realistic.

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