The mice are blown!

KV · Post by KV » Oct 30th, '06, 16:29

Is it just me or are those a new type of snowgun we have not seen at K before? Movable mini towers with three seperate nozzles?

KV

Mtn Man · Post by **Mtn Man** » Oct 30th, '06, 16:31

KV wrote:Is it just me or are those a new type of snowgun we have not seen at K before? Movable mini towers with three seperate nozzles?

KV

They were around last year in various places. They blow a finer mist from what I can remember.

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Gangsta Rider · Post by **Gangsta Rider** » Oct 30th, '06, 16:33

Low E wonder if they blow as much snow? theres got to be an effect.

spinmaster · Post by **spinmaster** » Oct 30th, '06, 17:08

They are HKD Ranger Low Energy guns. In cold temps - 20-24 degrees - they work real well and produce pretty much the same amount of snow as the K3000.
Vidoe of Monday's snowmaking is available at: http://www.killington.com/pressreleases ... 41&nobar=1

RustyK · Post by **RustyK** » Oct 30th, '06, 17:16

Tonight: Generally clear. Low 27F. Winds light and variable.

Tomorrow: Partly to mostly cloudy. High 59F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.

Tomorrow night: Cloudy with occasional r*in showers. Low 39F. Winds light and variable. Chance of r*in 40%.

Wednesday: A few passing clouds, otherwise generally sunny. High around 50F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph.

Thursday: More clouds than sun. Highs in the mid 40s and lows in the low 20s.

Friday: Snow showers possible. Highs in the low 40s and lows in the low 20s.

rogman · Post by **rogman** » Oct 30th, '06, 17:25

Gangsta Rider wrote:Low E wonder if they blow as much snow? theres got to be an effect.

The low E guns use less compressed air, thus they save energy. You have to freeze water and in a snow gun this happens two ways:
1. When the compressed air is allowed to expand it cools. In the same way, a bottle of propane gets cold when you use it.
2. When water evaporates what is left gets cooler. Example, sweat evaporating from your body makes you cooler.
Because there is less compressed air used in the low E guns, you are relying more on evaporation. Making the mist finer makes it easier for the water to evaporate (more surface area). What you see floating away when snow is being made isn't snow blowing off into the woods, it's water vapor. It is supposed to do that. That's why it takes so much water to make snow (on the order of 200,000 gallons/acre-foot) Not all the water is turned into snow, some of it evaporates. That is why low humidity is important to snow making.

b-5 · Post by **b-5** » Oct 30th, '06, 17:59

rogman wrote:
Gangsta Rider wrote:Low E wonder if they blow as much snow? theres got to be an effect.
The low E guns use less compressed air, thus they save energy. You have to freeze water and in a snow gun this happens two ways:
1. When the compressed air is allowed to expand it cools. In the same way, a bottle of propane gets cold when you use it.
2. When water evaporates what is left gets cooler. Example, sweat evaporating from your body makes you cooler.
Because there is less compressed air used in the low E guns, you are relying more on evaporation. Making the mist finer makes it easier for the water to evaporate (more surface area). What you see floating away when snow is being made isn't snow blowing off into the woods, it's water vapor. It is supposed to do that. That's why it takes so much water to make snow (on the order of 200,000 gallons/acre-foot) Not all the water is turned into snow, some of it evaporates. That is why low humidity is important to snow making.

thanks 4 the splain'in rogman...you guys use Sno-max?

rogman · Post by **rogman** » Oct 30th, '06, 18:54

spinmaster wrote:They are HKD Ranger Low Energy guns. In cold temps - 20-24 degrees - they work real well and produce pretty much the same amount of snow as the K3000.
Vidoe of Monday's snowmaking is available at: http://www.killington.com/pressreleases ... 41&nobar=1

Really cool. Thanks for putting that stuff on line, and for not compressing the hell out of it just to save bandwidth (~193 megs).