impeachment any day now...Kpdemello wrote:https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-d ... from-cohen
“Cohen provided the [special counsel’s office] with useful information concerning certain discrete Russia-related matters core to its investigation that he obtained by virtue of his regular contact with Company executives during the campaign,” Mueller wrote in his memo.
Cohen has admitted lying to Congress about how long he worked on the Trump Tower Moscow project and repeating the falsehoods to the media. But Mueller's team doesn't just consider this self-protection. It was a "deliberate effort" to publicly present a "false narrative" in the hopes of limiting the scope of the various Russia investigations, Mueller's team wrote in the memo.
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In other news,
Maybe instead of building a wall, stop wasting money on stupid sh!t and do your job?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tr ... cb27ebbbc9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;U.S. Customs and Border Protection granted Accenture Federal Services — a subsidiary of the global Accenture consulting company headquartered in the tax haven of Dublin — a $297 million contract last year to boost staffing by thousands in the wake of President Donald Trump’s crackdown on the border and immigration.
The company is “nowhere near satisfying its 7,500-person hiring goal over the next 5 years,” declared the report released last week by the inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security. “Further, CBP has used significant staffing and resources to help Accenture do the job for which it was contracted. As such, we are concerned that CBP may have paid Accenture for services and tools not provided.”
CBP “risks wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on a hastily approved contract that is not meeting its proposed performance expectations,” the report concluded.
The firm has already been paid $13.6 million. But when the inspector general audited the company’s actions, it discovered that as of Oct. 1 — more than 10 months into the contract — Accenture had successfully processed only two accepted job offers. In addition, it did so largely using CPB resources instead of its own, the report said.
Maybe instead of building a wall, stop wasting money on stupid sh!t and do your job?
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looks like the OIG is doing its job...will they recoup expenditures? will the contractor meet the 5 year goal? are they making progress towards that goal? or is the contractor a failure that needs to be cut?Kpdemello wrote:In other news,
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tr ... cb27ebbbc9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;U.S. Customs and Border Protection granted Accenture Federal Services — a subsidiary of the global Accenture consulting company headquartered in the tax haven of Dublin — a $297 million contract last year to boost staffing by thousands in the wake of President Donald Trump’s crackdown on the border and immigration.
The company is “nowhere near satisfying its 7,500-person hiring goal over the next 5 years,” declared the report released last week by the inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security. “Further, CBP has used significant staffing and resources to help Accenture do the job for which it was contracted. As such, we are concerned that CBP may have paid Accenture for services and tools not provided.”
CBP “risks wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on a hastily approved contract that is not meeting its proposed performance expectations,” the report concluded.
The firm has already been paid $13.6 million. But when the inspector general audited the company’s actions, it discovered that as of Oct. 1 — more than 10 months into the contract — Accenture had successfully processed only two accepted job offers. In addition, it did so largely using CPB resources instead of its own, the report said.
Maybe instead of building a wall, stop wasting money on stupid sh!t and do your job?
you don't actually imagine that trump personally hired them or that trump is directly involved with overseeing them on a daily basis do you? just another installment of your daily " orange man bad" because " X" meltdown...
I'm not really sure wtf you think or even if you think actually...
also from the HuffPo article
I dunno wtf else you want except to bitch....Despite arguing over the report, CBP agreed to all four recommendations from the inspector general to address the situation. One of the recommendations involves determining if Accenture should reimburse the Department of Homeland Security for services not delivered.
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Article is a little misleading ... CBP didn't pay $13.6M for two agents. Accenture was tasked w/ creating the hiring structure and a solution to facilitate hiring ... among other things. Here's a link to the OIG report.Kpdemello wrote:In other news,
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tr ... cb27ebbbc9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;U.S. Customs and Border Protection granted Accenture Federal Services — a subsidiary of the global Accenture consulting company headquartered in the tax haven of Dublin — a $297 million contract last year to boost staffing by thousands in the wake of President Donald Trump’s crackdown on the border and immigration.
The company is “nowhere near satisfying its 7,500-person hiring goal over the next 5 years,” declared the report released last week by the inspector general of the Department of Homeland Security. “Further, CBP has used significant staffing and resources to help Accenture do the job for which it was contracted. As such, we are concerned that CBP may have paid Accenture for services and tools not provided.”
CBP “risks wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on a hastily approved contract that is not meeting its proposed performance expectations,” the report concluded.
The firm has already been paid $13.6 million. But when the inspector general audited the company’s actions, it discovered that as of Oct. 1 — more than 10 months into the contract — Accenture had successfully processed only two accepted job offers. In addition, it did so largely using CPB resources instead of its own, the report said.
Maybe instead of building a wall, stop wasting money on stupid sh!t and do your job?
https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default ... -Nov18.pdf
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Very interesting opinion piece. https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/fascis ... cing-myth/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"I study rhetoric. The language you hear from Trump is evocative of and channeling what you heard from National Socialism and Hitler.
History shows us that the worse it gets the more the supporters will dig deep and have greater loyalty to the fascist-authoritarian leader.
To that end he is delegitimating all the ordinary institutions of democracy. This includes the free press and the news media. Trump is representing reality as “us versus them.” When you reduce everything to winning and losing then truth becomes irrelevant. And when truth becomes irrelevant, then you do not have a democratic culture anymore. Democracy itself is imperiled.
Donald Trump is destroying truth and replacing it with myth."
"I study rhetoric. The language you hear from Trump is evocative of and channeling what you heard from National Socialism and Hitler.
History shows us that the worse it gets the more the supporters will dig deep and have greater loyalty to the fascist-authoritarian leader.
To that end he is delegitimating all the ordinary institutions of democracy. This includes the free press and the news media. Trump is representing reality as “us versus them.” When you reduce everything to winning and losing then truth becomes irrelevant. And when truth becomes irrelevant, then you do not have a democratic culture anymore. Democracy itself is imperiled.
Donald Trump is destroying truth and replacing it with myth."
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If you read to the bottom, the article does provide that information. 13.6 mil still seems like an obscene amount of money to create "the hiring structure and a solution to facilitate hiring"XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Article is a little misleading ... CBP didn't pay $13.6M for two agents. Accenture was tasked w/ creating the hiring structure and a solution to facilitate hiring ... among other things. Here's a link to the OIG report.
Also a nearly $300 million contract to hire a few thousand people seems pretty obscene. The contract was for 7,500 hires so that's $39.6k per hire. That seems quite high on a per-hire basis. We're not recruiting lawyers and accountants, here, it's law enforcement professionals with an average base salary of $60k.
I thought Trump was a business guy who was supposed to bring efficiency to government. This does not seem efficient or businesslike, except for the Dublin-based business that is making millions on the contract.
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For a bespoke solution and hiring framework, $13.6M after 10 months seems reasonable to me, maybe even on the low side. To add perspective, the custom ACA solution cost ~$2B. I'm not disputing the findings from OIG, but just adding some context/color to the article/headline. You can't just divide hires by the contract amount since it includes so many other things.Kpdemello wrote:If you read to the bottom, the article does provide that information. 13.6 mil still seems like an obscene amount of money to create "the hiring structure and a solution to facilitate hiring"XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Article is a little misleading ... CBP didn't pay $13.6M for two agents. Accenture was tasked w/ creating the hiring structure and a solution to facilitate hiring ... among other things. Here's a link to the OIG report.
Also a nearly $300 million contract to hire a few thousand people seems pretty obscene. The contract was for 7,500 hires so that's $39.6k per hire. That seems quite high on a per-hire basis.
Lots of questions can be asked about the program. Perhaps Accenture should have used CBP's existing solution instead of developing a new one ... or maybe Accenture should have used an off the shelf solution (this option is unlikely due to CBP's requirements), etc.
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I agree the headline is clearly misleading, but the substance of the article was pretty complete. I'm not sure what you mean when you say the contract included so many other things. Per the OIG description, the contract was to help the CBP hire 7,500 applicants. What else do you think it included?
The OIG report even references the per-hire number:In November 2017, CBP awarded Accenture a $297 million contract to help
meet the demands of recruiting and hiring agents and officers under the
President’s January 25, 2017 Executive Order, Border Security and
Immigration Enforcement Improvements. The contract includes 1 base year,
with 4 option years, to hire 7,500 fully qualified applicants, including Customs
and Border Protection Officers, Border Patrol Agents, and Air and Marine
Interdiction Agents.
Not sure why you can't just divide the contract by the number of hires to evaluate it. That seems to me to be the best way to evaluate it.. CBP agreed to pay approximately $40,000 per hire during the base
year — 80 percent upon accepted offer and 20 percent once an applicant
enters on duty.
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Also re the ACA, apples and oranges, but I'd argue $2 billion for that custom solution is ridiculous and obscene. You could buy a software company for that kind of money.
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that's why no one values your input...it's a 5th grade level understanding...Kpdemello wrote:I agree the headline is clearly misleading, must be run by russian bots then why would you even post an article from such a place there's no way to get anything out of it but propaganda ...note: you have absolutely zero self awareness...but the substance of the article was pretty complete. I'm not sure what you mean when you say the contract included so many other things. Per the OIG description, the contract was to help the CBP hire 7,500 applicants. What else do you think it included?
The OIG report even references the per-hire number:In November 2017, CBP awarded Accenture a $297 million contract to help
meet the demands of recruiting and hiring agents and officers under the
President’s January 25, 2017 Executive Order, Border Security and
Immigration Enforcement Improvements. The contract includes 1 base year,
with 4 option years, to hire 7,500 fully qualified applicants, including Customs
and Border Protection Officers, Border Patrol Agents, and Air and Marine
Interdiction Agents.
Not sure why you can't just divide the contract by the number of hires to evaluate it. That seems to me to be the best way to evaluate it.. CBP agreed to pay approximately $40,000 per hire during the base
year — 80 percent upon accepted offer and 20 percent once an applicant
enters on duty.
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Kpdemello wrote:I agree the headline is clearly misleading, but the substance of the article was pretty complete. I'm not sure what you mean when you say the contract included so many other things. Per the OIG description, the contract was to help the CBP hire 7,500 applicants. What else do you think it included?
The OIG report even references the per-hire number:In November 2017, CBP awarded Accenture a $297 million contract to help
meet the demands of recruiting and hiring agents and officers under the
President’s January 25, 2017 Executive Order, Border Security and
Immigration Enforcement Improvements. The contract includes 1 base year,
with 4 option years, to hire 7,500 fully qualified applicants, including Customs
and Border Protection Officers, Border Patrol Agents, and Air and Marine
Interdiction Agents.
Not sure why you can't just divide the contract by the number of hires to evaluate it. That seems to me to be the best way to evaluate it.. CBP agreed to pay approximately $40,000 per hire during the base
year — 80 percent upon accepted offer and 20 percent once an applicant
enters on duty.
In addition to hiring FTEs, they were also tasked with disrupting / improving the existing process through new technology.In November 2017, CBP awarded Accenture a $297 million contract to help
meet the demands of recruiting and hiring agents and officers under the
President’s January 25, 2017 Executive Order, Border Security and
Immigration Enforcement Improvements. The contract includes 1 base year,
with 4 option years, to hire 7,500 fully qualified applicants, including Customs
and Border Protection Officers, Border Patrol Agents, and Air and Marine
Interdiction Agents. According to its Performance Work Statement (PWS),
Accenture agreed to recruit enough highly qualified frontline candidates to
satisfy the Executive Order and complete CBP’s 12-step hiring process, as
shown in figure 1, in its entirety by:
x implementing a leading edge process and tools to improve candidate
quality, reduce time to hire, and maintain CBP’s direct hire authority;
x implementing a core recruiting and hiring technology solution to manage
information and actions throughout the hiring process;
x providing a team of experienced Federal human resource personnel and
testing, medical, polygraph, and background investigation practitioners
to complete all hiring steps; and
x managing a team of subcontractors responsible for delivering a cohesive
turnkey recruiting and hiring operation
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Okay, I think you're stretching the language there, but I still think it's a huge waste of money. I'd be asking questions about the bidding process used to hire this vendor. With the off the shelf technology available out there and the number of hires here, it should not cost this much to recruit 7,500 border patrol agents.
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so far you've provided no evidence of that...Kpdemello wrote:Okay, I think
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You ever even hired anyone before? Worked with a recruiter? Know anything about human resources other than what you read about in Russian blogs?madhatter wrote:so far you've provided no evidence of that...Kpdemello wrote:Okay, I think
I've looked up some info to provide context.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3072945/t/arm ... A_gX9tKiUk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;This year, recruiting one Marine cost $6,539.
https://www.stripes.com/news/army-reach ... rs-1.68551" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;In fiscal 2005, that cost per recruit was $16,199; in 2004, $15,967. Although he did not have the precise figure for prior years, Smith said that in 2002 and 2001 the cost per recruit was in the $12,000 to $13,000 range.
Edit: Here's some more recent numbers (2014-2015)
http://faculty.virginia.edu/noah.myung/ ... ly2017.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Recruiting is also an expensive operation: to acquire these recruits, the
Navy spent over $600,000,000, or about $18,000 per recruit.1
It's a bit apples and oranges, but if the army/navy/marines can recruit people to fight and possibly die overseas for well under 20k per recruit, why does it take $40k per recruit to find border patrol agents?
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clearly you hear what your told to hear...Hillaryous coming from the party that has tried to overturn and de-legitimize the 2016 election since the moment it happened...promoted by the ministry of truth that tells us there are infinite number of genders, benghazi was caused by a video, white police stalk black people for fun and trump is a russian operative of putins. all women must be believed etc...just to name a few of the many "destructions of truth replaced with myth"...MarieM wrote:Very interesting opinion piece. https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/fascis ... cing-myth/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"I study rhetoric. The language you hear from Trump is evocative of and channeling what you heard from National Socialism and Hitler.
History shows us that the worse it gets the more the supporters will dig deep and have greater loyalty to the fascist-authoritarian leader.
To that end he is delegitimating all the ordinary institutions of democracy. This includes the free press and the news media. Trump is representing reality as “us versus them.” When you reduce everything to winning and losing then truth becomes irrelevant. And when truth becomes irrelevant, then you do not have a democratic culture anymore. Democracy itself is imperiled.
Donald Trump is destroying truth and replacing it with myth."
do you even do reality miss Antoinette? sure as hell don't seem like it....
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