Trump Presidency

[madhatter]

How do Trump supporters feel about Mulvaney defying Congressional subpoena?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump- ... n-n1078656" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In any other context, this sort of thing can land a person in big trouble. Of course enforcing a Federal subpoena requires Federal agents, who work for Mulvaney's boss, so it'd be pretty hard for Congress to enforce anything. Still,the Presidency is known to change hands - if it does, Mulvaney could be prosecuted in the future for a criminal act.

hey dumbfvck did you not see that kupperman asked a court to rule on the validity of said subpoenas? at which point schiff dropped the subpoena? did you not see bolton refuse to testify w/o a subpoena? did you not notice there was no subpoena? guess why? cuz these subpoenas are unenforceable...

[Kpdemello]

Executive Privilege.

How about the fact that three chiefs of staff under President Clinton were subpoenaed by the Republican Congress during the Clinton impeachment, and all showed up to testify?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... one-minute" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, why would executive privilege apply here? I believe that doctrine is only available for confidential information that, if revealed, could impair national security, or something equally serious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Dickc]

Executive Privilege.

How about the fact that three chiefs of staff under President Clinton were subpoenaed by the Republican Congress during the Clinton impeachment, and all showed up to testify?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... one-minute" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, why would executive privilege apply here? I believe that doctrine is only available for confidential information that, if revealed, could impair national security, or something equally serious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Because the Democrats have inserted a clause into THESE proceedings that nullifies Executive privilege that is NOT in any prior proceedings. That means the only way to protect Executive Privilege is to not show up at all.

[Kpdemello]

I'm not sure how Congress inserting some BS clause into their resolution justifies the President asserting executive privilege unless he were otherwise entitled to do so?

[madhatter]

Executive Privilege.

How about the fact that three chiefs of staff under President Clinton were subpoenaed by the Republican Congress during the Clinton impeachment, and all showed up to testify?

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... one-minute" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, why would executive privilege apply here? I believe that doctrine is only available for confidential information that, if revealed, could impair national security, or something equally serious.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_privilege" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

maybe they all have schiff on block? cuz none of em are going to respond to these worthless unenforceable subpoenas...

until a court says that subpoenaed witnesses must respond, the only ones who will respond are partisans anxious to ding the president...and it looks like schiff is not willing to test that court...

reality continues on without you, despite your ignorance to it...some lawyer...

[Dickc]

I'm not sure how Congress inserting some BS clause into their resolution justifies the President asserting executive privilege unless he were otherwise entitled to do so?

Section F states that unless the Executive surrenders Executive Privilege, they will NOT be able to call or question any witnesses. If I were Trump, I would order everyone to stay away.

[XtremeJibber2001]

[quote=“Lindsey Graham”]Article III of impeachment against Donald Trump, the article was based on the idea that Donald Trump as President, failed to comply with subpoenas of Congress. Congress was going through its oversight function to provide oversight of the President. When asked for information, Donald Trump chose not to comply, and the Congress, back in that time, said, You are taking impeachment away from us. You're becoming the judge and jury. It is not your job to tell us what we need. It is your job to comply with the things we need to provide oversight over you. The day Donald Trump failed to answer that subpoena is the day that he was subject to impeachment because he took the power from Congress over the impeachment process away from Congress, and he became the judge and jury.[/quote]

[madhatter]

Article III of impeachment against Donald Trump, the article was based on the idea that Donald Trump as President, failed to comply with subpoenas of Congress. Congress was going through its oversight function to provide oversight of the President. When asked for information, Donald Trump chose not to comply, and the Congress, back in that time, said, You are taking impeachment away from us. You're becoming the judge and jury. It is not your job to tell us what we need. It is your job to comply with the things we need to provide oversight over you. The day Donald Trump failed to answer that subpoena is the day that he was subject to impeachment because he took the power from Congress over the impeachment process away from Congress, and he became the judge and jury.

hahhaha nice try... schiff subpoenas kupperman... kupperman asked a court to rule on it...schiff withdrew the subpoena....schiff asked bolton to testify , bolton said not w/o a subpoena which he would also ask to have ruled on by a judge...schiff decided not to subpoena him saying he doesn't need his testimony...

good luck with your fantasy...

[XtremeJibber2001]

Interesting Bolton’s lawyers are almost begging for a court ruling to testify.

[madhatter]

Interesting Bolton’s lawyers are almost begging for a court ruling to testify.

hmmm... refuses to testify w/o a subpoena, will not respond to a subpoena w/o a court order to do so....taunts schiff to subpoena him....

yer move schiff....

Cooper lawyer for kupperman and boltonadded, "We are dismayed that the committees have chosen not to join us" in seeking a resolution from the courts. "Dr. Kupperman stands ready, as does Ambassador Bolton, to testify if the Judiciary resolves the conflict in favor of the Legislative Branch's position respecting such authority," he wrote.

"If the House chooses not to pursue through subpoena the testimony of Dr. Kupperman and Ambassador Bolton, let the record be clear: That is the House’s decision," he wrote

[WeekendWarrior]

FYI - NBD Interesting week.

“Trump Derangement Syndrome” = being so deranged that one supports a total POS.

Read the actual settlement document from the court and not the “statement by Donald J. Trump”. He stole from veterans. He stole from veterans. He stole from veterans.

Good on those medical professionals outside of BMC who protested Madam “I don’t care, do you?” Another POS, but good on her for gettin’ her anchor baby and citizenship for her parents. Now slap his hand away in public again.

Hoping a supporter will reply with, “Yes, I know he’s a POS, but I support him anyway.”

[madhatter]

FYI - NBD Interesting week.

“Trump Derangement Syndrome” = being so deranged that one supports a total POS.

Read the actual settlement document from the court and not the “statement by Donald J. Trump”. He stole from veterans. He stole from veterans. He stole from veterans.

Good on those medical professionals outside of BMC who protested Madam “I don’t care, do you?” Another POS, but good on her for gettin’ her anchor baby and citizenship for her parents. Now slap his hand away in public again.

Hoping a supporter will reply with, “Yes, I know he’s a POS, but I support him anyway.”

good idea maybe you should do that...


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“A review of the record … establishes that Mr. Trump breached his fiduciary duty to the Foundation and that waste occurred to the Foundation,” she wrote. “Mr. Trump’s fiduciary duty breaches included allowing his campaign to orchestrate the Fundraiser, allowing his campaign, instead of the Foundation, to direct distribution of the Funds, and using the Fundraiser and distribution of the Funds to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign.”

Scarpulla said that she found that the $2.8 million raised at the Iowa fundraiser “was used for Mr. Trump’s political campaign and disbursed by Mr. Trump’s campaign staff, rather than by the Foundation, in violation” of several laws. However, she ordered Trump to pay $2 million in waste damages — not the full $2.8 million sought by the attorney general — because “the Funds did ultimately reach their intended destinations, i.e., charitable organizations supporting veterans,” she wrote.

as always you leftists are dumber than a pile of sh!t...he didn't keep any of the money...the money went to the charities...he didn't steal from anyone, nor was any money stolen...that would be called embezzlement... the whining was about who distributed that money...maybe learn to read....


nah don't bother just do what they tell you....

[madhatter]

EXCLUSIVE: A newly filed complaint to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) alleges that the whistleblower whose allegations touched off House Democrats' impeachment inquiry may have violated federal law by indirectly soliciting more than a quarter-million dollars from mostly anonymous sources via a GoFundMe page.

The complaint, which was filed last week and obtained by Fox News, alleged the donations from roughly 6,000 individuals "clearly constitute" gifts to a current intelligence official that may be restricted because of the employee's official position pursuant to 5 CFR 2635.203 and other statutes. To date, the GoFundMe has raised over $227,000.

ha ha...

[madhatter]

mulvaney to schiff...fvck off...

(CNN)Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney no longer plans to sue in federal court over his House subpoena in the impeachment probe.

Instead, his attorneys told a federal judge Tuesday morning he's planning to obey the White House and Justice Department's direction for him not to testify.
Mulvaney had attempted to ask the court for help as a way hold off being held in contempt, according to his legal arguments over the past four days. He had claimed that he could not choose between complying with the House subpoena he received and the White House's instruction that he is immune from testifying.

"After further consideration, Mr. Mulvaney does not intend to pursue litigation regarding the deposition subpoena issued to him by the U.S. House of Representatives. Rather, he will rely on the direction of the President, as supported by an opinion of the Office of Legal Counsel of the U.S. Department of Justice, in not appearing for the relevant deposition," his attorneys wrote in a filing Tuesday morning.
"In light of the above representation, Mr. Mulvaney respectfully suggests that there no longer is a need for the status conference set by this Court for this afternoon, and thus that the Court may wish to vacate that conference. Mr. Mulvaney appreciates the time of the Court in considering his motion to intervene, and the opportunity to be heard on that motion."

anyone still wonder why the kupperman subpoena was dropped? why the bolton subpoena was never sought?

if ya can't figure it out, you might be a ( barely) useful idiot....

ya gotta do what they tell you...Hillaryous....

and speaking of hillary, when are the DNC and MSM going to beg her to throw her hat in the ring? hahahhahhah....

one more question:

what are the odds of jim jordan grabbing schiff by the neck and squeezing his eyeballs the rest of the way out of his skull?

now that would be some great theater...

[madhatter]

schitt show starts today


trump RCP avg is at 44...

ya'all feeling confident in your ruse?

schiff better have something huge...something new, devastating and irrefutable....based on his witness list for today that seems highly unlikely....I don't think taylors fourth hand info repeated for the fourth time is going to sway anyone...maybe we'll hear vindman testify about how he was insubordinate to the commander in chief?