Social Media and the First Amendment

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Social Media and the First Amendment

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The 11th circuit struck down FL's ridiculous law that purports to prevent social media companies from removing content on their own servers. As I've said on these forums before, social media companies have a first amendment right to remove content from the servers they own and operate.
“Put simply, with minor exceptions, the government can't tell a private person or entity what to say or how to say it,” said Circuit Judge Kevin Newsom, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, in the opinion. “We hold that it is substantially likely that social media companies — even the biggest ones — are private actors whose rights the First Amendment protects.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/appea ... cb791c9fc4


* started a new thread on this issue because the old thread was polluted with election fraud conspiracy theories.
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Absolutely no one, except maybe Marco Rubio, is surprised.
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Hey remember when Elon took over Twitter so he could make sure they respect free speech?
Twitter on Thursday suspended the accounts of journalists who cover the social media platform and its new owner Elon Musk, among them reporters working for The New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, Voice of America and other publications.

The company hasn’t explained to the journalists why it took down the accounts and made their profiles and past tweets disappear. But Musk took to Twitter on Thursday night to accuse journalists of sharing private information about his whereabouts that he described as “basically assassination coordinates.” He provided no evidence for that claim.
https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-te ... 317aeda10a

Unsurprisingly, some of those banned claim they never shared any information about Musk's whereabouts.
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Apparently the flight info he’s complaining about is publicly available.
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Bubba wrote: Dec 16th, '22, 10:44 Apparently the flight info he’s complaining about is publicly available.
And also easy to circumvent for a billionaire. Instead of flying his own private plane, Musk could charter planes when he needs them. In the end it would probably even save him money.
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Turns out the GOP was trying to censor stuff on Twitter just as much as Democrats were.
While Twitter was the preferred social media platform for former President Donald Trump, the entire Republican party's discontent with Twitter posts was tracked in a database Twitter kept of GOP requests to remove posts, according to a new Rolling Stone report.

The discovery of this detailed list is contrary to the partisan point-of-view that new Twitter owner Elon Musk has been sharing, as he has strategically been dialed-in on communicating Twitter post removal and content challenges from Democrats. At no time has Musk revealed the listing of GOP post removal requests.

The finding comes as part of Wednesday's House Oversight Committee hearing on Twitter and its alliances with both political parties, including suppressing content to benefit either Democratic or Republican messaging.

According to the story in Rolling Stone, the requests not only came from the staffs of both then-President Trump and current President Joe Biden, but also from the staffs of high-profile members of Congress, including Republican Representatives Kevin McCarthy (California) and Elise Stefanik (New York). The requests include reinstating banned right-wing personalities.

Ironically enough, Trump's staff would email to request post removals on their definition of "hate speech," which would also include death threats made at Trump and other influential GOP leaders. They would also contact Twitter about posts they considered misinformation.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA17gnzt
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So Elon bought Twitter to protect free speech, huh?
Last night when the clock struck midnight, nearly 13,000 workers at Ford, General Motors, and Stellantis went on strike after the so-called "Big Three" car companies failed to reach an agreement with United Auto Workers (UAW). By Friday morning, UAW discovered that X, the platform formerly known as Twitter—in what appeared to be a petty move by platform owner and Tesla CEO Elon Musk—had stripped their account's verified status, The Intercept reported.

The move seemingly makes it harder for UAW to maximize reach for its posts on X, just as workers have begun striking, demanding better wages and other benefits.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/202 ... ke-called/
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Just revisiting the fact that Elon Musk claims to be a free speech absolutist but tries to shut down any speech he does not like:
A federal judge in California threw out a lawsuit filed by X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, against a hate speech watchdog on Monday.

Why it matters: The judge ruled the lawsuit was intended to punish the Center for Countering Digital Hate for publishing research suggesting there has been a rise in bigoted speech on the platform since Elon Musk's takeover.

Context: Through the lawsuit, X claimed that the Center for Countering Digital Hate used "flawed methodologies to advance incorrect, misleading narratives" in its reports.

It accused the center of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, intentional interference with contractual relations and inducing breach of contract.

The center denied those claims and accused X and Musk of retaliating against it because of its reports.

What's inside: The judge ruled on Monday that the lawsuit was "unabashedly and vociferously" about "punishing the Defendants for their speech."
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/01/twitte ... gital-hate
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easyrider16 wrote: Mar 29th, '24, 07:02 Just revisiting the fact that Elon Musk claims to be a free speech absolutist but tries to shut down any speech he does not like:
A federal judge in California threw out a lawsuit filed by X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter, against a hate speech watchdog on Monday.

Why it matters: The judge ruled the lawsuit was intended to punish the Center for Countering Digital Hate for publishing research suggesting there has been a rise in bigoted speech on the platform since Elon Musk's takeover.

Context: Through the lawsuit, X claimed that the Center for Countering Digital Hate used "flawed methodologies to advance incorrect, misleading narratives" in its reports.

It accused the center of violating the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, intentional interference with contractual relations and inducing breach of contract.

The center denied those claims and accused X and Musk of retaliating against it because of its reports.

What's inside: The judge ruled on Monday that the lawsuit was "unabashedly and vociferously" about "punishing the Defendants for their speech."
https://www.axios.com/2023/08/01/twitte ... gital-hate
I hope the judge made Musk cover the Center’s legal fees.
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