2020 Election

[easyrider16]

It occurs to me that the real vulnerability in our election system isn't mail-in ballots, it's the electoral college system. If a politician like Trump can convince state legislatures to send fake electors and the VP or Senate is complicit, they can overturn any Presidential election they want. It's past time to get rid of this outdated relic.

[Fancypants]

It occurs to me that the real vulnerability in our election system isn't mail-in ballots, it's the electoral college system. If a politician like Trump can convince state legislatures to send fake electors and the VP or Senate is complicit, they can overturn any Presidential election they want. It's past time to get rid of this outdated relic.

It occurs to me that you're a toolbox without tools.

[easyrider16]

Name calling is the last resort of someone who has run out of logical argument.

[XtremeJibber2001]

More fraud ...

GOP official who claimed 2020 election was stolen voted illegally 9 times, judge rules
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... al-voting/

A Georgia Republican official who pushed false claims that the 2020 election was “stolen” was found to have voted illegally nine times, a judge ruled this week.

Brian Pritchard, first vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine, as well as investigative costs, and be publicly reprimanded.

[Bubba]

More fraud ...

GOP official who claimed 2020 election was stolen voted illegally 9 times, judge rules
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... al-voting/

A Georgia Republican official who pushed false claims that the 2020 election was “stolen” was found to have voted illegally nine times, a judge ruled this week.

Brian Pritchard, first vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine, as well as investigative costs, and be publicly reprimanded.

The MAGAt takeaway will be that he just proved how easy it is to vote illegally and was just proving his point about election fraud.

[deadheadskier]

Why isn't part of the penalty to have his right to vote permanently rescinded?

[XtremeJibber2001]

Could be the beginning of the end for Newsmax ... I assume they will settle w/ Smartmatic.

Judge schedules Newsmax case over 2020 election lies for September trial
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/media/sm ... index.html

A judge has scheduled a major defamation case against right-wing cable channel Newsmax to go to trial in late September, putting the battle over 2020 election lies front-and-center at the peak of the 2024 campaign.

Newsmax and the voting technology company Smartmatic could still reach an out-of-court settlement, and further delays are possible. But if the September 24 trial date holds, the fallout from former President Donald Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election will be on full display as he tries to return to the White House.

The trial would also be the first of more than a dozen high-profile defamation cases to face a jury, all stemming from the false claims that Smartmatic and another voting company, Dominion Voting Systems, rigged the 2020 election by flipping millions of votes from Trump to Joe Biden. Those lies — championed by Trump and his allies in Congress and the right-wing press — fueled the deadly insurrection on January 6, 2021.

The Newsmax trial is slated to take place in Delaware Superior Court, and Judge Eric Davis, who presided over the historic case brought by Dominion against Fox News last year, is similarly handling the Newsmax-Smartmatic lawsuit. The case is still in the discovery phase, and it’s possible Davis decides later that it shouldn’t proceed to trial.

Smartmatic filed the lawsuit in 2021, claiming that Newsmax intentionally promoted lies that the company was involved in rigging the election because it helped the network close the ratings gap with Fox.

“Newsmax published dozens of reports indicating that Smartmatic participated in a criminal conspiracy to rig and steal the 2020 U.S. election… Newsmax knew it had a story that was getting people to tune in to its shows, so Newsmax ran the story night after night. Newsmax knew it was a lie the whole time,’ Smartmatic’s lawyers wrote in the original lawsuit.

Davis allowed Smartmatic’s team to expand the lawsuit last year, to cover additional on-air statements from Newsmax hosts and guests that it believes were defamatory.

“Newsmax will show at trial overwhelming evidence that we never embraced stolen election claims and that we accepted Biden’s election while significantly reporting on criticism of President Trump’s claims,” Newsmax spokesman Bill Daddi said in a statement.

Owned by Trump ally Christopher Ruddy, Newsmax isn’t a media juggernaut like Fox. The network’s lineup features several former Fox personalities like Eric Bolling and Greta Van Susteren, as well as controversial ex-Trump White House official Sebastian Gorka and Clinton ally-turned-foe Dick Morris.

A trial could have significant implications for the First Amendment and how journalists cover Trump’s election lies. Further, a courtroom defeat for Newsmax could put the company in real financial peril.

The conservative network doesn’t attract a large audience like Fox News, but Newsmax’s ratings surged after the 2020 election. In the wake of the vote, Trump supporters flocked to the network as its hosts and guests questioned the legitimacy of Biden’s victory.

But Newsmax is also different from Fox in another key respect. In December 2020, after Smartmatic sent a letter to Newsmax threatening legal action, the network ran an on-air segment and published an article clearly stating there was “no evidence” that Smartmatic or Dominion ever “manipulated votes in the 2020 election,” even though “various guests, attorneys and elected officials” claimed otherwise on its airwaves.

In addition to the Newsmax case, Smartmatic is also suing Fox News, the fringe far-right cable channel OAN and Trump allies like Rudy Giuliani and Mike Lindell, who peddled the same election lies.

The September trial date was originally set for Newsmax and Dominion, who are engaged in a separate defamation lawsuit. But there were delays in that case, creating an opening for the Smartmatic case.

[deadheadskier]

Gee...was this a bad idea?

https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1338600278459727872

[XtremeJibber2001]

Gee...was this a bad idea?

https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1338600278459727872

Looks like election fraud?

Grand jury indicts fake electors who falsely certified Donald Trump as 2020 winner in Arizona

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... 184206007/

A grand jury has charged 11 Arizona Republicans and seven top aides to Donald Trump in a scheme to keep Trump in the White House by falsely certifying he won the state in 2020, though voters in the Grand Canyon State narrowly favored Joe Biden.

Attorney General Kris Mayes, a Democrat, announced on Wednesday the grand jury had issued the nine-count indictment. It alleges the slate of Republicans sometimes known as fake electors and the Trump aides engaged in a conspiracy aimed at "preventing the lawful transfer of the presidency of the United States, keeping President Donald J. Trump in office against the will of Arizona voters, and depriving Arizona voters of their right to vote and have their votes counted."

[easyrider16]

Yikes. This could lead to another Trump indictment if one of these people flips on him.

[deadheadskier]

Every single person involved should spend the rest of their life in jail. They were attempting to negate the single most important fundamental right of living in a democracy. If we have no right to vote and have our vote count, we have nothing.

I don't believe in the death penalty for any reason, so life in prison should be the punishment. Their right to freedom should end.

[deadheadskier]

https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/stat ... -5kMwsk6ew

Christina Bobb, the Trump attorney who was just indicted in the Arizona fake elector scheme, was recently named as a senior counsel for "election integrity" for the Republican National Committee.