The Trials Of Donald Trump

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Skid Mark wrote: Apr 15th, '24, 12:56 At least Trump is mentally competent to stand trial, unlike the forgetful well meaning old fool. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is supposed to be a consolation? That he is mentally fit to stand for his multiple criminal trials? :bang
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It's both amusing and sad to see you Marxist celebrating the abuse and destruction of our judicial system. If the shoe was on the other foot, you would be blocking roadways and looting (peacefully of course).

Give it a rest ER; your credibility is sh*t
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If Joe allegedly did anything that Trump has, Id be calling for him to be investigated and convicted of those crimes.

The laws apply to every American, even former Presidents.

We have said this over and over and over. Go right ahead and go after Joe
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deadheadskier wrote: Apr 15th, '24, 16:11 If Joe allegedly did anything that Trump has, Id be calling for him to be investigated and convicted of those crimes.

The laws apply to every American, even former Presidents.

We have said this over and over and over. Go right ahead and go after Joe
The special council who investigated China Joe identified several felonies committed.

The Bragg case is normally charged as a misdemeanor but he somehow twisted it into a felony. Meanwhile, Bragg downgrades +50% of felonies to misdemeanors.
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List those felonies and evidence.

Thanks
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deadheadskier wrote: Apr 15th, '24, 17:17 List those felonies and evidence.

Thanks
Bragg let's people walk away after pulling guns on people, assault, armed robbery, repeat offenders of all those, his policies are horrible. He certainly needs to go.
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Certainly sounds like it
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Not sure how many times I have to agree that the Bragg case is not a good one before you believe me. But I guess I have no credibility.

I am curious if you see any issue with the underlying conduct - a candidate for the highest office who tried to secretly pay off a porn star so she wouldn't talk about their affair. Seems rather repugnant even if not necessarily a crime.
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The reality is with his cultist supporters, he didn't have to do anything. They'd probably still vote for the guy even if the affair was with Ivanka. There is literally nothing the man can do no matter how immoral or illegal that will cost him support. Trump is a god to these people.
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In a letter to the exchange, Devin Nunes, the CEO of Trump Media (DJT), laid out what he believes could be deemed “naked” short selling.

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The letter was made public Friday in a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Nunes also noted in the letter that shares of the company were on a list the Nasdaq maintains that’s “indicative of unlawful trading activity.”
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daytripper wrote: Apr 15th, '24, 17:43
deadheadskier wrote: Apr 15th, '24, 17:17 List those felonies and evidence.

Thanks
Bragg let's people walk away after pulling guns on people, assault, armed robbery, repeat offenders of all those, his policies are horrible. He certainly needs to go.
If he succeeds in nailing the Orange Turd that will trump all of his shortcomings.
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Let's get something on the record. I think there's a pretty fair chance that Trump is either not found guilty in the Bragg prosecution or that it gets flipped on appeal due to the nature of the charges. Just because that happens in this case, though, does not mean that *all the other* cases are bogus. Just this one.

I am actually very disappointed that this is the first one to go forward. If Trump does get a not guilty verdict, or he flips it on appeal, his supporters like Skid Mark are going to use it to claim that every other prosecution is bullsh!t. But the truth is, these cases are being brought by different prosecutors in different jurisdictions with differing motivations and circumstances. Biden isn't responsible for the state cases, and the individual prosecutors on those cases don't report to him.

The state cases so far have been a bit of a fiasco. This stormy case is a potential overreach, and in Georgia the DA has embarrassed herself quite publicly. The federal prosecutor handling the Jan 6 and classified documents cases is the real deal with impeccable credentials, but he should have been appointed earlier than he was so we could be farther along by now. The fact that these prosecutions are proceeding during the election year is problematic in a number of ways in my opinion.
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easyrider16 wrote: Apr 22nd, '24, 06:32I am actually very disappointed that this is the first one to go forward.
Why do you think it's such a weak case?
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Apr 22nd, '24, 09:16
easyrider16 wrote: Apr 22nd, '24, 06:32I am actually very disappointed that this is the first one to go forward.
Why do you think it's such a weak case?
Because they are trying to stretch a statute that wasn't really meant to cover this case to make what he did a felony criminal offense. It's also questionable to me whether this payment can really be defined as benefiting the campaign and therefore a required disclosure.

I think what he actually did do - paying off a porn star to keep their affair quiet- is not ethical, is embarrassing, and should be taken into account when considering this man's character. I also think going to the lengths he did to try to hide this raises serious concerns about the man's honesty. But is it a crime? I think there's a good chance the appeals court says no.
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easyrider16 wrote: Apr 22nd, '24, 09:20
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: Apr 22nd, '24, 09:16
easyrider16 wrote: Apr 22nd, '24, 06:32I am actually very disappointed that this is the first one to go forward.
Why do you think it's such a weak case?
Because they are trying to stretch a statute that wasn't really meant to cover this case to make what he did a felony criminal offense. It's also questionable to me whether this payment can really be defined as benefiting the campaign and therefore a required disclosure.

I think what he actually did do - paying off a porn star to keep their affair quiet- is not ethical, is embarrassing, and should be taken into account when considering this man's character. I also think going to the lengths he did to try to hide this raises serious concerns about the man's honesty. But is it a crime? I think there's a good chance the appeals court says no.
Got it ... so it seems to me (IANAL) the falsification of business records is a slam dunk, but the elevation to a felony is the weak part. DOJ has to prove the hush money was used to cover up another crime, which is a stretch.
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