Can the Democrat Party be saved?

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We know you're stupid shitstain. Inflation spiked because of Covid related supply disruptions and corporate price gouging. Biden and Drumpf had very little to do with it.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 9th, '24, 09:12
easyrider16 wrote: May 9th, '24, 06:20And who'd have thought from his resume that I'd actually think Johnson was doing a half-way decent job?
Bar is set pretty low right now, no? He's benefitting from that a bit!
Oh for sure. I'm not saying I'd vote for the guy, but he did get some things done that really needed to get done (budget, Ukraine aid, etc). He put the needs of the country ahead of his party and personal goals, at least in those instances. That means something even if I disagree with a lot of his policy positions.
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I agree. I've been pleasantly surprised by his professional approach.
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easyrider16 wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 9th, '24, 09:12
easyrider16 wrote: May 9th, '24, 06:20And who'd have thought from his resume that I'd actually think Johnson was doing a half-way decent job?
Bar is set pretty low right now, no? He's benefitting from that a bit!
Oh for sure. I'm not saying I'd vote for the guy, but he did get some things done that really needed to get done (budget, Ukraine aid, etc). He put the needs of the country ahead of his party and personal goals, at least in those instances. That means something even if I disagree with a lot of his policy positions.
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G-smashed wrote: May 9th, '24, 10:36 We know you're stupid shitstain. Inflation spiked because of Covid related supply disruptions and corporate price gouging. Biden and Drumpf had very little to do with it.
Relax Always-Smashed, but you're wrong yet again. It was the Dems blowing trillions on COVID relief. Any opportunity to blow money and the Dem party is all over it.

Ponder that over your bloody Mary.
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Skid Mark wrote: May 10th, '24, 07:40 Relax Always-Smashed, but you're wrong yet again. It was the Dems blowing trillions on COVID relief. Any opportunity to blow money and the Dem party is all over it.
Republicans of the last ten years have not exactly been fiscally conservative. If memory serves, your MAGA guy wanted to keep shelling out for economic stimulus payments while he was in office. Granted he wasn't there when the last one was signed into law, but he probably would have supported it given his rhetoric.
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easyrider16 wrote: May 10th, '24, 08:46
Skid Mark wrote: May 10th, '24, 07:40 Relax Always-Smashed, but you're wrong yet again. It was the Dems blowing trillions on COVID relief. Any opportunity to blow money and the Dem party is all over it.
Republicans of the last ten years have not exactly been fiscally conservative. If memory serves, your MAGA guy wanted to keep shelling out for economic stimulus payments while he was in office. Granted he wasn't there when the last one was signed into law, but he probably would have supported it given his rhetoric.
10 years? Try 60. Republicans convincing voters that the GOP is somehow better with monetary policy has been one of the greatest political propaganda achievements of modern times. Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2, Trump and Nixon were all in the top 10 in terms of growing the debt. Reagan who modern conservatives like to point to as a financial genius was #3 behind only FDR and Wilson, both of whom had World Wars to fund.

You know who is not in the top 10? Joe Biden

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Yeah you're right. I think GOP voters confuse lower taxes with being fiscally conservative. In point of fact, the GOP has been far more reckless with public finances because they continue to spend but at the same time cut taxes with the resulting bigger deficits. Of course many believe that cutting taxes results in more tax revenue which is a fun conversation to have.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 9th, '24, 09:12
easyrider16 wrote: May 9th, '24, 06:20And who'd have thought from his resume that I'd actually think Johnson was doing a half-way decent job?
Bar is set pretty low right now, no? He's benefitting from that a bit!
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 14th, '24, 07:55
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 9th, '24, 09:12
easyrider16 wrote: May 9th, '24, 06:20And who'd have thought from his resume that I'd actually think Johnson was doing a half-way decent job?
Bar is set pretty low right now, no? He's benefitting from that a bit!
House Speaker Mike Johnson to bend the knee / kiss the ring.

House speaker to attend trial as Cohen takes stand again
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/live-upda ... =110153195
Don’t you just love the picture of Christian conservative Mike Johnson appearing in court to lend support to a serial philandering, porn star schtupping rapist?
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Re: Can the Democrat Party be saved?

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Bubba wrote: May 14th, '24, 10:55
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 14th, '24, 07:55
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: May 9th, '24, 09:12
easyrider16 wrote: May 9th, '24, 06:20And who'd have thought from his resume that I'd actually think Johnson was doing a half-way decent job?
Bar is set pretty low right now, no? He's benefitting from that a bit!
House Speaker Mike Johnson to bend the knee / kiss the ring.

House speaker to attend trial as Cohen takes stand again
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/live-upda ... =110153195
Don’t you just love the picture of Christian conservative Mike Johnson appearing in court to lend support to a serial philandering, porn star schtupping rapist?
I don't really have an issue with him appearing, but I do take issue with Johnson calling the DOJ corrupt, calling the trial a sham, speaking out against the judge's daughter, and attacking witnesses.

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Re: Can the Democrat Party be saved?

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Bubba wrote: May 14th, '24, 10:55 Don’t you just love the picture of Christian conservative Mike Johnson appearing in court to lend support to a serial philandering, porn star schtupping rapist?
It's a very succinct illustration of how the evangelical right has totally thrown away all principle in support of Trump. I remember when they used to say things like "character matters." In any case, proof positive that these folks don't actually care about moral decency, only about accumulating power to impose their will on others.
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