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Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 10:25
by XtremeJibber2001
deadheadskier wrote: ↑Aug 26th, '20, 10:18
Again,
Not arguing GI Joe's right to defend himself. I'm arguing that the police didn't order the militia off the streets like they were with everyone else. They encouraged them to be there. That's a HUGE mistake that had deadly results.
It also puts a target on the back of every Kenosha police officer. Hopefully cooler heads prevail and there isn't heavy retaliation against that department, but unlikely with what we are seeing there.
Agree 100%. Did they break a law in doing so? I don't think so, but sure is sloppy and inconsistent policing ... validates much of what's being said about PD's in America.
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 10:39
by deadheadskier
I bet the PD gets charged with inciting a riot.
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 10:52
by Highway Star
deadheadskier wrote: ↑Aug 26th, '20, 10:39
I bet the PD gets charged with inciting a riot.
You're funny.
KYS.
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 12:23
by deadheadskier
Young Kyle in some big trouble.
Charged with first degree murder
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/2-killed ... wisconsin/
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 13:13
by Highway Star
Imagine being such a f*** retard that you can't even read the actual criminal compliant and see "First Degree Intentional Homicide". Sigh.
https://www.scribd.com/document/4737381 ... ittenhouse
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 13:16
by deadheadskier
No I didn't read the criminal complaint. The first sentence of the article said murder.
F off loser
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 14:01
by XtremeJibber2001
Not from the article, but well said:
well after seeing cops shoot an unarmed black guy seven times in the back & then chattin it up with a white 17 year old sauntering about with a long gun who then shot three people & was allowed to return home afterwards I am convinced there is no systemic racism
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 14:30
by easyrider16
First degree intentional homicide is what the Wisconsin criminal code calls first degree murder. You may need a dictionary for this one, but homicide means murder, just FYI.
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 14:44
by Highway Star
Rittenhouse has turned himself in to authorities. Obviously he's in considerable trouble but should have a pretty solid self defense case.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 90326.html
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 15:51
by deadheadskier
I wouldn't be so sure of that.
https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statut ... 939/III/48
939.48 Self-defense and defense of others
Read 2. C
He was unlawfully there for a number of reasons, not the least of which was being too young to open carry in WI. He should have been arrested by the cops, not thrown a water bottle.
This punk was not there to stop looting. He was there to act out some GI Joe fantasy and provoke a fight.
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 16:49
by easyrider16
deadheadskier wrote: ↑Aug 26th, '20, 15:51This punk was not there to stop looting. He was there to act out some GI Joe fantasy and provoke a fight.
This is exactly what I'd be afraid of the jury thinking, and I'm sure the prosecutor is going to do everything possible to reinforce this notion.
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 18:48
by Highway Star
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 19:11
by easyrider16
None of that justifies the use of deadly force, even if 100% true. What's missing is the threat of serious bodily injury.
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Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 19:25
by Highway Star
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... in-AG.html
"'During the incident, officers attempted to arrest Jacob S. Blake...Law enforcement deployed a taser to attempt to stop Mr. Blake, however the taser was not successful in stopping Mr. Blake,' officials said.
During an investigation Blake admitted that he had a knife and agents recovered it from the driver’s side floorboard of his vehicle after opening fire.
In the incident officers yelled for Blake to 'drop the knife' as they followed him around the car.
He opened his car door and appeared to lunge for something as a police officer, identified as Officer Rusten Sheskey, grabbed the back of his shirt and fired it into Blake's back seven times. "
Re: Some fires did something (Kenosha WI)
Posted: Aug 26th, '20, 19:56
by easyrider16
Well if the guy had a knife, that might justify the use of deadly force, depending on the circumstances.
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