$3/gal gas prices aren't bad for everyone.

yeti · Post by **yeti** » Jul 28th, '06, 10:35

I have been following Ballard (more so their technology rather than their stock) since 1999. Some good technology their, but still not feasible on a large scale.

Hydrogen. Think if hydrogen as you would a battery. It takes lots of energy to produce it. After expending that energy you put it in your (car/plane/whatever) and extract energy from it. That is all hydrogen gets us. It moves the pipe farting out the poison from your car to some power plant somewhere. That is all.

BigKahuna13 · Post by **BigKahuna13** » Jul 28th, '06, 10:39

yeti wrote:I have been following Ballard (more so their technology rather than their stock) since 1999. Some good technology their, but still not feasible on a large scale.

Hydrogen. Think if hydrogen as you would a battery. It takes lots of energy to produce it. After expending that energy you put it in your (car/plane/whatever) and extract energy from it. That is all hydrogen gets us. It moves the pipe farting out the poison from your car to some power plant somewhere. That is all.

Yeah, but I think cleaning up power plant emissions might be an easier problem to solve than cleaning up car emissions. At least there are less of them to worry about.

Also read that nukes are making a comeback. At least a bunch of power companies have started the process of requesting permission to build them.

G-smashed · Post by **G-smashed** » Jul 28th, '06, 11:51

2pink1stink wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Read an analyst report today that if another Katrina like weather event occurs in the south, prices could easily reach $100+ a barrell ... translating to $5/gallon+ at the pumps.
let's hope so.

Gotcha! You're really Geoff, aren't you!

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Jul 28th, '06, 12:23

BigKahuna13 wrote:Biggest problem with hydrogen is that most of the H2 that's available on earth has that attached "O". Haven't followed the technology that closely but if I remember correctly it's still an expensive - in terms of energy - process to liberate hydrogen from water.

Too bad we just can't stick a collector out in interplanetary space. Lots of the stuff up there.

There is 20+ feet of tide in downeast Maine. That can be harnessed to run turbines to produce electricity. You then produce hydrogen by electrolysis of seawater and pipe it around the country.

Geoff · Post by **Geoff** » Jul 28th, '06, 12:27

G-smashed wrote:
2pink1stink wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
Read an analyst report today that if another Katrina like weather event occurs in the south, prices could easily reach $100+ a barrell ... translating to $5/gallon+ at the pumps.
let's hope so.
Gotcha! You're really Geoff, aren't you!

Huh? I'm the guy who thinks we should bomb the Middle East back into the stone age so we can go back to $1.00/gallon at the pump. Dr. Strangelove diplomacy.

ski_adk · Post by **ski_adk** » Jul 28th, '06, 12:29

Yeah, but if we were to clean up emissions, global warming would accelerate even faster.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming

Dr. NO · Post by **Dr. NO** » Jul 28th, '06, 14:45

Geoff wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote:Biggest problem with hydrogen is that most of the H2 that's available on earth has that attached "O". Haven't followed the technology that closely but if I remember correctly it's still an expensive - in terms of energy - process to liberate hydrogen from water.

Too bad we just can't stick a collector out in interplanetary space. Lots of the stuff up there.
There is 20+ feet of tide in downeast Maine. That can be harnessed to run turbines to produce electricity. You then produce hydrogen by electrolysis of seawater and pipe it around the country.

Tidal turbines are in use up in Canada. They even have some where at low tide hey have a dike and the water poors over it. At mid tide it goes into nuetral, and then reverses at high tide. One of my co-workers programmed that particular one.