the IT industry REEEEEAAAAALLLLLYYYY sucks!
the IT industry REEEEEAAAAALLLLLYYYY sucks!
I've been a consultant with this company for over 2 years now. It was supposed to be a try before you buy thing at first - then I got the shaft because a new CEO came in and cancelled all pending hires.
Then my group was insourced to the company we were administering their systems for, and because I was still a consulant at the old place they couldn't hire me full time at the new place.
In the mean time, Ty got laid off so now we're paying an additional $850 a month for COBRA insurance. Not to mention the fact that I haven't taken a single day off since last September due to the fact that it hurts us a lot financially (didn't hurt as much when Ty was working which was the situation when I was first hired). Also I work for free on the weekends (when I have to work, which is not too often) since they don't have a way of paying constultants for weekend work...
I've been trying to get hired full time by the company since December - always get told "It's in the pipe line but things take a long time... yadda yadda yadda..."
Now to add insult to injury, the company just called up the consulting firm I work for and want to decrease my pay - they say there are plenty of people in India who would work for a lot less....
JEEEEEZZZEEE!!!
I'd love to just chuck it all and move to VT or UT or something and do my own work, or buy a bed and breakfast etc. and quit this freakin rat race!!!
Then my group was insourced to the company we were administering their systems for, and because I was still a consulant at the old place they couldn't hire me full time at the new place.
In the mean time, Ty got laid off so now we're paying an additional $850 a month for COBRA insurance. Not to mention the fact that I haven't taken a single day off since last September due to the fact that it hurts us a lot financially (didn't hurt as much when Ty was working which was the situation when I was first hired). Also I work for free on the weekends (when I have to work, which is not too often) since they don't have a way of paying constultants for weekend work...
I've been trying to get hired full time by the company since December - always get told "It's in the pipe line but things take a long time... yadda yadda yadda..."
Now to add insult to injury, the company just called up the consulting firm I work for and want to decrease my pay - they say there are plenty of people in India who would work for a lot less....
JEEEEEZZZEEE!!!
I'd love to just chuck it all and move to VT or UT or something and do my own work, or buy a bed and breakfast etc. and quit this freakin rat race!!!
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Sounds like industry norms to me, unfortunate still.
Start looking for other jobs. I just started working at my first 'real' job, but I'm still looking for jobs all the time and going to job fairs. I don't know where you work, where you live, or what your skills have, but I'm sure you're fully qualified and won't have too much of a problem finding a new job.
That's what I would do. SAP wanted me as a contractor/consultant, but your incident above is exaclty why I said 'no thank you'. Even though it paid nearly 20K more.
Good luck!
Start looking for other jobs. I just started working at my first 'real' job, but I'm still looking for jobs all the time and going to job fairs. I don't know where you work, where you live, or what your skills have, but I'm sure you're fully qualified and won't have too much of a problem finding a new job.
That's what I would do. SAP wanted me as a contractor/consultant, but your incident above is exaclty why I said 'no thank you'. Even though it paid nearly 20K more.
Good luck!
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I say chuck it and move to Vermont. You can sell your place on LI for a bundle, move into your place in VT, find IT or other work locally, and look for a house once you settle in with new employment up here. Your place here has also appreciated quite a bit so, when you sell it and combine the equity with your equity from the LI house, you'll do quite well in buying a new house here with plenty of land to go with it. Schools are good - and the life is a lot easier. Now's the time!
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Re: the IT industry REEEEEAAAAALLLLLYYYY sucks!
A bed and breakfast?? That'd be 24/7...I'm thinking that's not quite giving up the rat race.SkiDork wrote: I'd love to just chuck it all and move to VT or UT or something and do my own work, or buy a bed and breakfast etc. and quit this freakin rat race!!!
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Most people in IT are already 24/7MarieM wrote: A bed and breakfast?? That'd be 24/7...I'm thinking that's not quite giving up the rat race.
Re: the IT industry REEEEEAAAAALLLLLYYYY sucks!
Not for nothin' would I discount that; but it's probably not quite the same 24/7 as some self-employed people.XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Most people in IT are already 24/7MarieM wrote: A bed and breakfast?? That'd be 24/7...I'm thinking that's not quite giving up the rat race.
Ty prolly wouldn't go for itBubba wrote:I say chuck it and move to Vermont. You can sell your place on LI for a bundle, move into your place in VT, find IT or other work locally, and look for a house once you settle in with new employment up here. Your place here has also appreciated quite a bit so, when you sell it and combine the equity with your equity from the LI house, you'll do quite well in buying a new house here with plenty of land to go with it. Schools are good - and the life is a lot easier. Now's the time!
Re: the IT industry REEEEEAAAAALLLLLYYYY sucks!
Why stay in the rat race? I've been wrestling with that question myself and you know what, it's not worth it. Why visit paradise when -- with a little material sacrifice -- you could live there? If you only had 20 years left to live, would you pull the trigger? 10 years? 5? 1? If you could go back in time and choose to live in VT or UT instead of where you are now, would you?SkiDork wrote:I'd love to just chuck it all and move to VT or UT or something and do my own work, or buy a bed and breakfast etc. and quit this freakin rat race!!!
Figure out just why you are holding onto what you have now and whether its worth more than what you think you might want to have.
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SkiDork,
The guy who owns our ski house in Pittsfield did the same thing several years ago and hasn't looked back and he is married with kids. He left the whole 9-5 corporate world in NY (or was laid off) and opened the Swiss Farm Acres B&B in Pittsfield, VT on Rt. 100. He has also bought some homes in the area and rents them out for the winter season (like he did with our house in Pittsfield). Granted he works alot with running the B&B but he couldn't be happier and spends alot of his down time on his snowmobile and skis or mountain bikes in the summer. It is not as far-fetched as it seems.
The guy who owns our ski house in Pittsfield did the same thing several years ago and hasn't looked back and he is married with kids. He left the whole 9-5 corporate world in NY (or was laid off) and opened the Swiss Farm Acres B&B in Pittsfield, VT on Rt. 100. He has also bought some homes in the area and rents them out for the winter season (like he did with our house in Pittsfield). Granted he works alot with running the B&B but he couldn't be happier and spends alot of his down time on his snowmobile and skis or mountain bikes in the summer. It is not as far-fetched as it seems.
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That would be the hard part, wouldn't it. It'd be great if you could score a gig working for a large firm from a virtual office at home (like someone I know) but I can't believe there's a huge call for IT professionals in Vermont.Bubba wrote:I say chuck it and move to Vermont. You can sell your place on LI for a bundle, move into your place in VT, find IT or other work locally, and look for a house once you settle in with new employment up here. Your place here has also appreciated quite a bit so, when you sell it and combine the equity with your equity from the LI house, you'll do quite well in buying a new house here with plenty of land to go with it. Schools are good - and the life is a lot easier. Now's the time!
What is not possible is not to choose. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
>> Also I work for free on the weekends (when I have to work, which is not too often) since they don't have a way of paying constultants for weekend work...
Sure they have a way of paying you - it is called "direct deposit", or if they are behing the times, "cutting a check."
I have this rule: I work, they pay, no exceptions.
Sure they have a way of paying you - it is called "direct deposit", or if they are behing the times, "cutting a check."
I have this rule: I work, they pay, no exceptions.
Thanks for the mammaries! (.)(.)
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There's a need for IT people but the pay sure isn't the same. On the other hand, the cost of living isn't the same either.BigKahuna13 wrote:That would be the hard part, wouldn't it. It'd be great if you could score a gig working for a large firm from a virtual office at home (like someone I know) but I can't believe there's a huge call for IT professionals in Vermont.Bubba wrote:I say chuck it and move to Vermont. You can sell your place on LI for a bundle, move into your place in VT, find IT or other work locally, and look for a house once you settle in with new employment up here. Your place here has also appreciated quite a bit so, when you sell it and combine the equity with your equity from the LI house, you'll do quite well in buying a new house here with plenty of land to go with it. Schools are good - and the life is a lot easier. Now's the time!
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The imminent onset of poverty could help change her attitude.SkiDork wrote:Ty prolly wouldn't go for itBubba wrote:I say chuck it and move to Vermont. You can sell your place on LI for a bundle, move into your place in VT, find IT or other work locally, and look for a house once you settle in with new employment up here. Your place here has also appreciated quite a bit so, when you sell it and combine the equity with your equity from the LI house, you'll do quite well in buying a new house here with plenty of land to go with it. Schools are good - and the life is a lot easier. Now's the time!
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Re: the IT industry REEEEEAAAAALLLLLYYYY sucks!
I constantly debate this. I'd never live in UT...the place is just too weird for me. But I do contemplate getting the flock out of here...almost daily.ski_adk wrote:If you could go back in time and choose to live in VT or UT instead of where you are now, would you?
Figure out just why you are holding onto what you have now and whether its worth more than what you think you might want to have.