Carry ons

XtremeJibber2001 · Post by **XtremeJibber2001** » Aug 16th, '06, 10:28

hmmmm

United Airlines Flight 923 from London's Heathrow Airport to Washington was diverted to Boston after a confrontation between passengers. Watch police activity live on CNN Pipeline now.

Cityskier · Post by **Cityskier** » Aug 16th, '06, 10:37

A female passenger aboard United Flight 923 had Vaseline, a screw driver, matches and a note referencing al-Qaida, according to Phil Orlandella, spokesman for Boston's Logan International Airport.

NBC News has been told there was never a threat of terrorism. The pilot decided to land at the nearest airport after the altercation. The woman was taken off the plane, which is planned to continue to Dulles International Airport.

No more lubing up your screwdrivers folks...we're at war!

Post by **SkiDork** » Aug 16th, '06, 10:42

Cityskier wrote:A female passenger aboard United Flight 923 had Vaseline, a screw driver, matches and a note referencing al-Qaida, according to Phil Orlandella, spokesman for Boston's Logan International Airport.

NBC News has been told there was never a threat of terrorism. The pilot decided to land at the nearest airport after the altercation. The woman was taken off the plane, which is planned to continue to Dulles International Airport.

No more lubing up your screwdrivers folks...we're at war!

how the freak do you get on board with a screwdriver???????

BigKahuna13 · Post by **BigKahuna13** » Aug 16th, '06, 11:41

The TSA says she wasn't carrying anything. She was apparently claustrophobic and got into some altercation with the crew related to her claustrophobia.

Am I the only one who's sickened by the way we as a society react to this stuff. We act like a bunch of frightened sheep ready to piss in our pants. If the goal of terrorism is to terrorize - they won.

yeti · Post by **yeti** » Aug 16th, '06, 11:53

how the freak do you get on board with a screwdriver???????

Beats me - I would think both vodka AND OJ were banned liquids...

bada-BING!

Cityskier · Post by **Cityskier** » Aug 16th, '06, 12:17

BigKahuna13 wrote:The TSA says she wasn't carrying anything. She was apparently claustrophobic and got into some altercation with the crew related to her claustrophobia.

Am I the only one who's sickened by the way we as a society react to this stuff. We act like a bunch of frightened sheep ready to piss in our pants. If the goal of terrorism is to terrorize - they won.

You're certainly not alone in your sickened state. Fear is a powerful tool...one that is used against us at every opportunity it seems. And not just by "them".

yeti · Post by **yeti** » Aug 16th, '06, 12:27

If they won then let them celebrate in a r*in of 20mm DU cannonfire and 1000 pound bombs.

Cityskier · Post by **Cityskier** » Aug 16th, '06, 14:59

Gotta love our modern day media...

BOSTON - Fighter jets escorted a London-to-Washington, D.C., flight to Boston's Logan airport Wednesday after the pilot declared an emergency because an apparently claustrophobic passenger caused a disturbance, federal officials said.

The federal security official for Logan said there was no indication of terrorism and denied reports that the woman had a screw driver, matches and a note referring to al-Qaida.

The passenger aboard United Flight 923 said she was claustrophobic and became very upset and got into some kind of confrontation with the flight crew, said George Naccara, security director for the Transportation Security Administration for Massachusetts' airport.

XtremeJibber2001 · Post by **XtremeJibber2001** » Aug 16th, '06, 15:13

BigKahuna13 wrote: Am I the only one who's sickened by the way we as a society react to this stuff. We act like a bunch of frightened sheep ready to piss in our pants. If the goal of terrorism is to terrorize - they won.

Am I the only one who's sickened by how idiotic some airplane passengers are? After everything that's happend, I saw two people on 8/11 attempting to sneak on bottles of water!

Better safe then sorry.

shortski · Post by **shortski** » Aug 17th, '06, 07:23

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote: Am I the only one who's sickened by the way we as a society react to this stuff. We act like a bunch of frightened sheep ready to piss in our pants. If the goal of terrorism is to terrorize - they won.
Am I the only one who's sickened by how idiotic some airplane passengers are? After everything that's happend, I saw two people on 8/11 attempting to sneak on bottles of water!

Better safe then sorry.

Wouldn't a better approch to banning water be to have the people bringing water on board take a drink, nah to simple.

XtremeJibber2001 · Post by **XtremeJibber2001** » Aug 17th, '06, 08:01

shortski wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote: Am I the only one who's sickened by the way we as a society react to this stuff. We act like a bunch of frightened sheep ready to piss in our pants. If the goal of terrorism is to terrorize - they won.
Am I the only one who's sickened by how idiotic some airplane passengers are? After everything that's happend, I saw two people on 8/11 attempting to sneak on bottles of water!

Better safe then sorry.
Wouldn't a better approch to banning water be to have the people bringing water on board take a drink, nah to simple.

What always amazes me is people say that passengers, flight crew, the TSA over react sometimes (all the time?), but if this woman who supposidly is claustrophobic ended-up blowing the plane to pieces, then they'd cry about how the TSA isn't strict enough.

BigKahuna13 · Post by **BigKahuna13** » Aug 17th, '06, 09:14

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
shortski wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote: Am I the only one who's sickened by the way we as a society react to this stuff. We act like a bunch of frightened sheep ready to piss in our pants. If the goal of terrorism is to terrorize - they won.
Am I the only one who's sickened by how idiotic some airplane passengers are? After everything that's happend, I saw two people on 8/11 attempting to sneak on bottles of water!

Better safe then sorry.
Wouldn't a better approch to banning water be to have the people bringing water on board take a drink, nah to simple.
What always amazes me is people say that passengers, flight crew, the TSA over react sometimes (all the time?), but if this woman who supposidly is claustrophobic ended-up blowing the plane to pieces, then they'd cry about how the TSA isn't strict enough.

You can say that about almost anything. Where do you draw the line?
At the rate we're going soon anytime a passenger farts they'll call out the
F16s.

Wasn't there so I don't know what went on, but this strikes me more as a cya move than anything else. An expensive cya to boot. Falcon's ain't cheap to operate and diversions cost airlines lots of money.

Post by **Bubba** » Aug 17th, '06, 09:27

BigKahuna13 wrote: Where do you draw the line?
At the rate we're going soon anytime a passenger farts they'll call out the
F16s.

Hey, I've been on flights where people around me were farting so bad they should've called the HazMat gang. A guy with a match could've taken the whole plane down just by lighting one up! Maybe supplies of Beano or Pepto should be mandatory on all flights?

XtremeJibber2001 · Post by **XtremeJibber2001** » Aug 17th, '06, 09:27

BigKahuna13 wrote:
You can say that about almost anything. Where do you draw the line?
At the rate we're going soon anytime a passenger farts they'll call out the
F16s.

Wasn't there so I don't know what went on, but this strikes me more as a cya move than anything else. An expensive cya to boot. Falcon's ain't cheap to operate and diversions cost airlines lots of money.

If this woman was a Terrorist and crashed the plane into the Sears tower, I'm sure you'd be posting here questioning why the F-16's weren't scrambled.

Farting? Probably not, but obviously the flight attendants, air marshall(s) (were there any?), and pilots saw the need to land. I'll take the pilots decision on the need to land and be escorted as reason enough.

BigKahuna13 · Post by **BigKahuna13** » Aug 17th, '06, 09:51

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote:
You can say that about almost anything. Where do you draw the line?
At the rate we're going soon anytime a passenger farts they'll call out the
F16s.

Wasn't there so I don't know what went on, but this strikes me more as a cya move than anything else. An expensive cya to boot. Falcon's ain't cheap to operate and diversions cost airlines lots of money.
If this woman was a Terrorist and crashed the plane into the Sears tower, I'm sure you'd be posting here questioning why the F-16's weren't scrambled.

Farting? Probably not, but obviously the flight attendants, air marshall(s) (were there any?), and pilots saw the need to land. I'll take the pilots decision on the need to land and be escorted as reason enough.

You're completely missing the point. You can call anyone a terrorist for doing just about anything and get away with it. Does not mean that that's a smart thing to do.

I'm not so much complaining about the decision as much as the environment of fear we've created that causes otherwise reasonable people to overreact to anything that's out of the ordinary.