"We need to eliminate white people."

[ski_adk]

Check this shiat out...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0

[XtremeJibber2001]

Check this shiat out...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5StQAr7n0

Oh gee. Another African American to add to the list of people who will blame anyone but themselves for their failures.

We should just face it, no matter what we do, a large percentage of African American's still believe the 'white crackers' owe them something and beleive the 'white mans' objective in life is to see the 'black man' fall ... despite all the incentives/programs/etc that exist specifically because an African American's skin color is darker then a white mans.

Gimme a f'n break.

Then we have this bozo from the other side of the fence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEcz9T3MuL4

[ski_adk]

I'm just glad we finally have equal opportunity haters on both sides. These characters should get in a ring and fight each other. I'd pay to see that.

[XtremeJibber2001]

I'm just glad we finally have equal opportunity haters on both sides. These characters should get in a ring and fight each other. I'd pay to see that.

I agree!!!!

I just wish there was equal opportunity in general. Why can't I get a full ride to a private college because I'm white?

[bklyntrayc]

I agree!!!!

I just wish there was equal opportunity in general. Why can't I get a full ride to a private college because I'm white?

Because...
you're not smart enough to earn an academic scholarship or too uncoordinated to earn an athletic one.

[XtremeJibber2001]

I agree!!!!

I just wish there was equal opportunity in general. Why can't I get a full ride to a private college because I'm white?

Because...
you're not smart enough to earn an academic scholarship or too uncoordinated to earn an athletic one.

I want a full-scholarship because I'm white AND smart!

Personally, I received several grants and scholarships, but not nearly as much as a minority who was smart AND a minority.

It has nothing to do with being smart. Do you think ethnic 'quotas' in large US corporations are in place to ensure the most bright and intelligent individual gets the job he/she deserves??

How about the disgustingly large scholarships/grants that are awarded to minorities for being a smart minority (wow, that sounds racist!)?

Do you think this is an 'equal opportunity' for those of us who are not minorities? Does 'affirmative action' in the education system ensure the smartest and most driven individuals are awarded with large grants/scholarships to the $100K+ private university?

The US is an 'equal rights' nation and thus, nothing should be awarded to someone because of the color or their skin, nor should a person get a job over another person because of skin color.

[BigKahuna13]

Don't know what the guy said on the video - I'll look at it when I get home
so my comments are not at all based on what he may or not have said.

That said - what makes anyone think that minorities - particularly those of African descent - are on an equal footing with whites? What makes anyone think that the hole that was dug for them by a couple of hundred years of slavery, followed by a hundred plus years of socially and legally sanctioned discrimination has been completely filled?

And sports scholarships suck btw. What possible correlation is there between someone's ability to throw a football and their ability to do
chemistry?

[XtremeJibber2001]

That said - what makes anyone think that minorities - particularly those of African descent - are on an equal footing with whites? What makes anyone think that the hole that was dug for them by a couple of hundred years of slavery, followed by a hundred plus years of socially and legally sanctioned discrimination has been completely filled?

It depends how you define 'equal footing'.

Personally, colleges around the US are weighed unevenly. Admissions and Scholarships are weighed very heavily FOR the minority prospect, many times giving a minority precedence over a white student due to skin color.

We could argue all day about other socio-economic issues, my personal beef is with the Academic world, both public and private.

And sports scholarships suck btw. What possible correlation is there between someone's ability to throw a football and their ability to do
chemistry?

Nil

[bklyntrayc]

I was being a smartass when I implied that you were not smart or athletic but claiming the USA is an "equal rights nation", means you haven't been studying in your history class.

[XtremeJibber2001]

I was being a smartass when I implied that you were not smart or athletic but claiming the USA is an "equal rights nation", means you haven't been studying in your history class.

... I figured as much.

[ski_adk]

Personally, colleges around the US are weighed unevenly. Admissions and Scholarships are weighed very heavily FOR the minority prospect, many times giving a minority precedence over a white student due to skin color.

I got into a decent college, got a decent job and now live a pretty decent life. I have never lost out because a minority received precedence over me. Not directly at least. But, if I actually think the way folks like Rush Limbaugh would have me to, I'd be bitter as hell that my lack of extra wealth was a direct result of a minority getting over on me.

You know what though, the only thing in this world that can get in my way of obtaining success is me. So, I'm just gonna focus on myself. A "minority" (I personally hate that term - we're all Americans) getting a help hand isn't really affecting my ability to achieve. And actually, if you think about it, it just might help me instead.

Know why?

It's because that helping hand just might be what it takes for someone to say "Screw this gang crap. I'm getting out of the (Pick one: barrio/hood/slum/trailer park) to get an education and make a difference in the real world." If a small, extra bit of help can do that, then maybe I'll have one more consumer to sell my goods and services to. Maybe that person could actually become a resourceful employee. And maybe, just maybe, that person will go back where he/she came from and actually make a real and positive difference there.

But, then again, maybe we should just forget about them, and send the extra money to rich white suburban kids, who, after all, probably already have the capability of doing well enough without the aid.

[tyrolean_skier]

I got into a decent college, got a decent job and now live a pretty decent life. I have never lost out because a minority received precedence over me. Not directly at least. But, if I actually think the way folks like Rush Limbaugh would have me to, I'd be bitter as hell that my lack of extra wealth was a direct result of a minority getting over on me.

You know what though, the only thing in this world that can get in my way of obtaining success is me. So, I'm just gonna focus on myself. A "minority" (I personally hate that term - we're all Americans) getting a help hand isn't really affecting my ability to achieve. And actually, if you think about it, it just might help me instead.

Know why?

It's because that helping hand just might be what it takes for someone to say "Screw this gang crap. I'm getting out of the (Pick one: barrio/hood/slum/trailer park) to get an education and make a difference in the real world." If a small, extra bit of help can do that, then maybe I'll have one more consumer to sell my goods and services to. Maybe that person could actually become a resourceful employee. And maybe, just maybe, that person will go back where he/she came from and actually make a real and positive difference there.

But, then again, maybe we should just forget about them, and send the extra money to rich white suburban kids, who, after all, probably already have the capability of doing well enough without the aid.

Very well said.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Personally, colleges around the US are weighed unevenly. Admissions and Scholarships are weighed very heavily FOR the minority prospect, many times giving a minority precedence over a white student due to skin color.

I got into a decent college, got a decent job and now live a pretty decent life. I have never lost out because a minority received precedence over me. Not directly at least. But, if I actually think the way folks like Rush Limbaugh would have me to, I'd be bitter as hell that my lack of extra wealth was a direct result of a minority getting over on me.

I don't mean for this to come off as an attack, but if you think my opinion has anything to do with that moron Rush, you're only kidding yourself. I'm an American and I have an opinion, it has nothing to do with Rush just like your opinion has nothing to do with Reverend Al Sharpton or Nancy Pelosi.

If anyone gets anything more then me because of the color of their skin, that's sh*t. That's that. I sat with countless minorities in my classes and found out they were on full scholarships. Not because they were excelling more then me, but because of their skin color.

I've never lost out on a job offer or anything to that degree. However, in terms of student loans, I've lost out greatly. Does it eat me up to see a minority with 'decent' grades getting a full ride while I'm busting my a_ss getting straight A's via a $55K loan at 6.5% interest, you bet your a_ss it does! Why should a minority get a scholarship and not me? It's because of my skin color. Has absolutely nothing to do with academic awareness, dedication, motivation, etc.

You know what though, the only thing in this world that can get in my way of obtaining success is me. So, I'm just gonna focus on myself. A "minority" (I personally hate that term - we're all Americans) getting a help hand isn't really affecting my ability to achieve. And actually, if you think about it, it just might help me instead.

Similar to you, I don't need a helping hand. I focus on myself, my career, my family, and what I can do. I'll be damned if someone with the same grades as me is saving $100K because they're black. This is not a socialistic society. My hard earned dollars are partially providing a minority a free ride because of their skin color. If you don't see how I feel that's messed-up, there's nothing more I can do.

Know why?

It's because that helping hand just might be what it takes for someone to say "Screw this gang crap. I'm getting out of the (Pick one: barrio/hood/slum/trailer park) to get an education and make a difference in the real world." If a small, extra bit of help can do that, then maybe I'll have one more consumer to sell my goods and services to. Maybe that person could actually become a resourceful employee. And maybe, just maybe, that person will go back where he/she came from and actually make a real and positive difference there.

I don't mind seeing people getting a helping had to get an education, get out of the ghetto, and obtain a great job along with great pay. When is the last time you were in college? The minorities on full rides certainly weren't out of the ghetto, they weren't poor kids from Camden, they're just like me from the middle class and from a good high-school with decent SAT scores. If I was helping people get out of the ghetto and into school, I'd be all for it, but that's just not the way it is. I donate my money where I feel is appropriate, I'm not willing to pay $55K for schools at 6.5% interest just so a minority can go to school. They can pay their loans just like I can, regardless of their skin color.

But, then again, maybe we should just forget about them, and send the extra money to rich white suburban kids, who, after all, probably already have the capability of doing well enough without the aid.

No, we shouldn't forget about them. However, we should not, I repeat NOT give handouts to anyone because of the color of their skin. And if by any means you're equating me with a rich white suburban kid, you're poorly mistaken. Furthermore, why does it have to be sending money to rich 'white' suburban kids? We're all Americans, no need to segregate only the rich 'white' kids, right? I'm doing great without the extra boost a full-ride would have provided, but that buddy of mine who sat next to me that got a full ride and now works at ernst and young is doing much better, thanks to me and all the other 'rich white suburban kids'.

Perhaps the day will come when you have kids and they go to college ... only their fellow minority classmates are getting a full ride because of their skin color while you and your wife are $200K in debt sending two children to a private university. Why do you have to pay it? Well, you're white and successful, now pay up!

But hey, at least you're helping that unfortunate minority student that went to school with your kids ....

Perhaps then you'll see the light.

[DMC_Freeride]

The reality of socialized racism against black Americans is only a generation behind us.. The pain of the horrible way black Americans were treated is still fresh in many peoples minds.. I can't pretend to understand the way an oppressed people feel after suffering for so long..
But I do know that we as a county need to try to make ammends for those indescretions that still exist in places today. As we get to the end of this attempt to make things better there will be people that do not think it still needs to exist and people who try and take a militant stand to continue the fight as well as people that take advantage of it...

[XtremeJibber2001]

The reality of socialized racism against black Americans is only a generation behind us.. The pain of the horrible way black Americans were treated is still fresh in many peoples minds.. I can't pretend to understand the way an oppressed people feel after suffering for so long..

But I do know that we as a county need to try to make ammends for those indescretions that still exist in places today. As we get to the end of this attempt to make things better there will be people that do not think it still needs to exist and people who try and take a militant stand to continue the fight as well as people that take advantage of it...

I agree with some of what you say, but we as a society shouldn't go around rewarding those of a different skin color just because we'd like to make-up for something that occurred many years ago that many of my fellow classmates had no part in.

Rewards of any kind; whether it be financial, career related, scholarly, etc. should not be rewarded on race.