New postal law lets Bush peek through your mail

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New postal law lets Bush peek through your mail

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http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/ ... 8789c.html

"President Bush added a "signing statement" in recently passed postal reform bill that may give him new powers to pry into your mail - without a warrant. "
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Thats like Hitler asking someone to buy kosher.

And now I am put on the Troll list like Diss was..
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All hail King George!!!, protector of the common man and of all mankind.
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I hope he takes some of my bills.
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Man ... what a f*** this man has caused.

Real question ... if a democrat is elected in 2008, do you think they'll correct all the "spy openings" GWB administered? If so, they might get my vote.
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They got my vote...

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They got my vote, but it yet remains to be seen if they will deliver.I hope they actually fulfill their role in performing oversight on the executive branch of government.
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Re: They got my vote...

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ABushismaDay wrote:They got my vote, but it yet remains to be seen if they will deliver.I hope they actually fulfill their role in performing oversight on the executive branch of government.
IMHO ... nothing will change, but I'm hoping for the best.
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Yes, more treason by "Benedict" Bush.

Since it is a signing statement, there is good hope that it will be thrown out -- or at least not applicable for the next President.

"Stop throwing the Constituion in my face...It's just a goddamed piece of paper." -- George W. Bush, 2005

"Constitution is an outdated document." -- Alberto Gonzales

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BadDog wrote:Yes, more treason by "Benedict" Bush.

Since it is a signing statement, there is good hope that it will be thrown out -- or at least not applicable for the next President.

"Stop throwing the Constituion in my face...It's just a goddamed piece of paper." -- George W. Bush, 2005

"Constitution is an outdated document." -- Alberto Gonzales

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." -- Oath of office, United States Constitution (Article II, Section 1)
From what I've read ... the first two quotes are "unconfirmed". I couldn't find a credible source that reported these quotes.

I'm not 100% certain that this would be a direct case of treason. Unethical, yes.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote: From what I've read ... the first two quotes are "unconfirmed". I couldn't find a credible source that reported these quotes.
Mayybe it was from the guy that said the Iraqis had Yellow Cake..?

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
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Thats like Hitler asking someone to buy kosher.

And now I am put on the Troll list like Diss was..
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DMC_Freeride wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote: From what I've read ... the first two quotes are "unconfirmed". I couldn't find a credible source that reported these quotes.
Mayybe it was from the guy that said the Iraqis had Yellow Cake..?

"The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
Could be ...
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
BadDog wrote:Yes, more treason by "Benedict" Bush.

Since it is a signing statement, there is good hope that it will be thrown out -- or at least not applicable for the next President.

"Stop throwing the Constituion in my face...It's just a goddamed piece of paper." -- George W. Bush, 2005

"Constitution is an outdated document." -- Alberto Gonzales

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." -- Oath of office, United States Constitution (Article II, Section 1)
From what I've read ... the first two quotes are "unconfirmed". I couldn't find a credible source that reported these quotes.

I'm not 100% certain that this would be a direct case of treason. Unethical, yes.
Whether the quotes are confirmed or not doesn't really matter. The President's actions clearly show a complete disdain for the Constitution.

Interesting tidbit about George Washington. He veto'ed one of the first bills put before him not because he disagreed with it, he actually thought it was a good idea. He vetoed it because he viewed it, good idea or not, as unconstitutional. In his remarks after vetoing the bill he flatly said that it was he wouldn't be fulfilling his role as defender of the Constitution if he'd signed it.
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BigKahuna13 wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
BadDog wrote:Yes, more treason by "Benedict" Bush.

Since it is a signing statement, there is good hope that it will be thrown out -- or at least not applicable for the next President.

"Stop throwing the Constituion in my face...It's just a goddamed piece of paper." -- George W. Bush, 2005

"Constitution is an outdated document." -- Alberto Gonzales

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." -- Oath of office, United States Constitution (Article II, Section 1)
From what I've read ... the first two quotes are "unconfirmed". I couldn't find a credible source that reported these quotes.

I'm not 100% certain that this would be a direct case of treason. Unethical, yes.
Whether the quotes are confirmed or not doesn't really matter. The President's actions clearly show a complete disdain for the Constitution...
The Supreme Court, through its actions and decisions over the past 200+ years, has proven that the Constitution is open to interpretation. "Disdain for the Constitution" in your eyes is "interpretation" in the eyes of others.
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XtremeJibber2001 wrote:Man ... what a f*** this man has caused.

Real question ... if a democrat is elected in 2008, do you think they'll correct all the "spy openings" GWB administered? If so, they might get my vote.
Hmm, lets see, did the Republicans reverse all the illegal land grabs from the previous Democrat administration?

Answer, probably not!
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Bubba wrote: The Supreme Court, through its actions and decisions over the past 200+ years, has proven that the Constitution is open to interpretation. "Disdain for the Constitution" in your eyes is "interpretation" in the eyes of others.
The constitution was not written primarily by lawyers and judges, it was written by de facto parlimentarians.

Judges and lawyers are granted their powers from the Constitution, which gets it's authority from the people, the not the other way around.
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Bubba wrote:
BigKahuna13 wrote:
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
BadDog wrote:Yes, more treason by "Benedict" Bush.

Since it is a signing statement, there is good hope that it will be thrown out -- or at least not applicable for the next President.

"Stop throwing the Constituion in my face...It's just a goddamed piece of paper." -- George W. Bush, 2005

"Constitution is an outdated document." -- Alberto Gonzales

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." -- Oath of office, United States Constitution (Article II, Section 1)
From what I've read ... the first two quotes are "unconfirmed". I couldn't find a credible source that reported these quotes.

I'm not 100% certain that this would be a direct case of treason. Unethical, yes.
Whether the quotes are confirmed or not doesn't really matter. The President's actions clearly show a complete disdain for the Constitution...
The Supreme Court, through its actions and decisions over the past 200+ years, has proven that the Constitution is open to interpretation. "Disdain for the Constitution" in your eyes is "interpretation" in the eyes of others.
Bubba you don't really believe that the administration's interpretation of it's powers under the Constitution bears any relation to reality. Do you?
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