rise above the hype

[cmfrvt]

Listen, I know the challenges of the past. I'm passionate about the future of Killington and have been attempting to change the culture at the mountain and how we conduct ourselves. Obvious and transparent are the operative words.

Here is my problem. We are in a competitive market and every ski area is off to a tough start. But that shouldn't give any resort the right to stretch the truth or even lie about their current situation in the hope of capturing more business. Our friends down at Okemo are doing just that with their % of terrain open claim. I called them out on this tactic last night, this morning, and even sent Tim Meuller an email to let him know what his marketing group was doing. I have had no response.

We don't have any binding organization or association who will hold them accountable with any consequences. I may have flown a bit off the handle but this is what we have done. We created a down and dirty website to communicate the facts. I chose the domain name which I am now thinking might be too aggressive but what the hell. It is http://okemonotorious.com/

What do you think we should do with this to hold Okemo accountable?

[johnny the jibber]

i think you should get nastier. tell em their mountain sucks...

[Bling Skier]

Listen, I know the challenges of the past. I'm passionate about the future of Killington and have been attempting to change the culture at the mountain and how we conduct ourselves. Obvious and transparent are the operative words.

Here is my problem. We are in a competitive market and every ski area is off to a tough start. But that shouldn't give any resort the right to stretch the truth or even lie about their current situation in the hope of capturing more business. Our friends down at Okemo are doing just that with their % of terrain open claim. I called them out on this tactic last night, this morning, and even sent Tim Meuller an email to let him know what his marketing group was doing. I have had no response.

We don't have any binding organization or association who will hold them accountable with any consequences. I may have flown a bit off the handle but this is what we have done. We created a down and dirty website to communicate the facts. I chose the domain name which I am now thinking might be too aggressive but what the hell. It is http://okemonotorious.com/

What do you think we should do with this to hold Okemo accountable?

Ummmmm, Not ski there?
DUHHHHH!
Now Quit Your bitching and wax your skis!

[HelmetCam]

Tom / Dave:

Rise above the sleezeball website tactics. You're better than that.

Its good to be passionate about your mountain. We are too. Take the high road.

[TacklingSnowmenSteve]

Listen, I know the challenges of the past. I'm passionate about the future of Killington and have been attempting to change the culture at the mountain and how we conduct ourselves. Obvious and transparent are the operative words.

Here is my problem. We are in a competitive market and every ski area is off to a tough start. But that shouldn't give any resort the right to stretch the truth or even lie about their current situation in the hope of capturing more business. Our friends down at Okemo are doing just that with their % of terrain open claim. I called them out on this tactic last night, this morning, and even sent Tim Meuller an email to let him know what his marketing group was doing. I have had no response.

We don't have any binding organization or association who will hold them accountable with any consequences. I may have flown a bit off the handle but this is what we have done. We created a down and dirty website to communicate the facts. I chose the domain name which I am now thinking might be too aggressive but what the hell. It is http://okemonotorious.com/

What do you think we should do with this to hold Okemo accountable?

I like the website.. love the comparison...

lets get the torches and pritch forks and lynch slokemo!

[robrules]

I think it makes you guys look like cry babies.

Waaaaah! Mommy, he's not playing fair...Waaaahh!

From a consumer standpoint the website makes you guys seem like you are defensive about the amount of terrain you have open. Rise above the petty sh*t and get out there, do some real work, and move some guns around. That's how I'd like to see my pass money spent, not on some dopes searching around the internet and a staff creating web pages just to try to prove that a ski area is stretching the truth. Ever hear that phrase that those in glass houses should not throw stones ?- if your snowmaking capabilities were as good as your marketers have been claiming, then you could be touting that you have the largest % of terrain open and you wouldn't be in this position at all. Its really a vicious cycle - the more money and time you waste on sh*t like this, the less money and resources are available for snowmaking, causing you to spend more money and time calling other areas out.

Pay more attention to your own mountain and we will all be better off.

[BoozeTan]

well, if they truly have 56 trails open then they arent really lying, it is however misleading. Thats like Ski Sundown saying they are the most open in the east if they are 90% open. Lets see, we have 20 trails and 18 of them are open..90%
Okemo should be ashamed of using this tactic to deceive their customers.

[AlpineZone]

Listen, I know the challenges of the past. I'm passionate about the future of Killington and have been attempting to change the culture at the mountain and how we conduct ourselves. Obvious and transparent are the operative words.

Here is my problem. We are in a competitive market and every ski area is off to a tough start. But that shouldn't give any resort the right to stretch the truth or even lie about their current situation in the hope of capturing more business. Our friends down at Okemo are doing just that with their % of terrain open claim. I called them out on this tactic last night, this morning, and even sent Tim Meuller an email to let him know what his marketing group was doing. I have had no response.

We don't have any binding organization or association who will hold them accountable with any consequences. I may have flown a bit off the handle but this is what we have done. We created a down and dirty website to communicate the facts. I chose the domain name which I am now thinking might be too aggressive but what the hell. It is http://okemonotorious.com/

What do you think we should do with this to hold Okemo accountable?

I have to agree with HelmetCam. Take the high road. Concentrate on what you guys need to do to present accurate snow reports and don't worry about what the others are doing. If they are presenting inaccurate snow reports, the general skiing public will call them out on it eventually...

[Highway Star]

Cross posted to Epicski:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=50203

Would someone care to crosspost to alpinezone and TGR????

[XtremeJibber2001]

I think it's kool ... I'd like to see more corporations/consumers hold businesses to account.

[HelmetCam]

Cross posted to Epicski:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=50203

Would someone care to crosspost to alpinezone and TGR????

Why don't you handle the TGR post. They love you over there.

[Highway Star]

Cross posted to Epicski:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=50203

Would someone care to crosspost to alpinezone and TGR????

Why don't you handle the TGR post. They love you over there.

Damian Sanders already took care of it:

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/show ... hp?t=73356

(no, I'm not him)

[Skibumtress]

Tom / Dave:

Rise above the sleezeball website tactics. You're better than that.

Its good to be passionate about your mountain. We are too. Take the high road.

I too have to agree with this. If Okemo wants to dig their own hole, then so be it..... let them. Like HelmetCam said...... "Take the high road." Let the customers find out for themselves.....
Bad Karma IMO and not such a great marketing strategy.

[andyzee]

Tom / Dave:

Rise above the sleezeball website tactics. You're better than that.

Its good to be passionate about your mountain. We are too. Take the high road.

I agree. Also remember, Killington has been known to exaggerate a bit in the past as well. I do believe you are doing a fine job to be honest and up front with us now, keep it up and it will be appreciated. My advice, shut that site down immediately. Now, where's Steve? :)

[Gangsta Rider]

Nice work with the website. Is there a link from Killington.com for that site.