Senate committee repudiates Bush on Iraq

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Senate committee repudiates Bush on Iraq

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It's non binding so all the huff asnd puff was a waste of time. i want to see a binding resolution, even then I imagine Bush would change it with a signing statement.


By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent
Wed Jan 24, 5:33 PM ET



WASHINGTON - In a calculated snub of President Bush, the Democratic-controlled Senate Foreign Relations Committee dismissed plans for a troop buildup in Iraq on Wednesday as "not in the national interest" of the United States.

"The president has made his decision," Vice President Dick Cheney fired back, a response that made it clear the administration would go ahead anyway. "We need to get the job done."

The committee vote, 12-9 along party lines, capped hours of debate in which Republicans and Democrats vented their frustration and anger — both with the administration and their own past unwillingness to change the course of a war that has claimed the lives of more than 3,000 U.S. troops.

"There is no strategy. This is a pingpong game with American lives," said Republican Sen. Chuck Hagel (news, bio, voting record) of Nebraska.

"This Congress was never meant to be a rubber stamp," added Sen. Barbara Boxer (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., "Read the Constitution. The Congress has the power to declare war. And on multiple occasions, we used our power to end conflicts."

Hagel was the only one of 10 committee Republicans to support the nonbinding measure. Several of the panel's 11 Democrats said they favored stronger legislation to register their opposition to the war.

In the wake of midterm election losses, Bush announced two weeks that he would order an additional 21,500 troops into the war zone. In Tuesday night's State of the Union address, he implored skeptical lawmakers to give the strategy a chance.

Bush got his answer in less than 24 hours, the timing dictated by Democrats, and Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record). D-Del., the panel's chairman, said tougher measures were likely to follow.

"Unless the president demonstrates very quickly that he is unlikely to continue down the road he's on, this will be only the first step. ... I will be introducing ... constitutionally legitimate, binding pieces of legislation. We will bring them up," he said.

Taken together, the committee's vote and Cheney's response suggested the Democrats and the White House were on a collision course — lawmakers drafting ever-stronger measures to change policy in Iraq, and the president exercising his prerogatives as commander in chief — and his veto pen.

"We are moving forward," Cheney said in an interview with CNN in which he was asked about the troop buildup. "The Congress has control over the purse strings. They have the right, obviously, if they want, to cut off funding. But in terms of this effort, the president has made his decision."

The vice president added: "We've consulted extensively with them. We'll continue to consult with the Congress. But the fact of the matter is, we need to get the job done."

Inside the Senate committee, all Republicans but Hagel opposed the measure, denying Democrats the strong bipartisan vote they had sought.

Biden, who has announced he intends to run for president in 2008, said the legislation is "not an attempt to embarrass the president. ... It's an attempt to save the president from making a significant mistake with regard to our policy in Iraq."

Democrats intend to bring the measure to the Senate floor for a vote next week, and Biden said he is willing, in the interim, to make changes in the hopes of gaining additional Republican support.

Some committee Republicans sought unsuccessfully to temper the measure before it was approved. Additionally, more than a half-dozen GOP lawmakers in the Senate have signaled interest in an alternative that merely expresses disagreement with the president's policy rather than deeming it not in the national interest.

"The thing that I'm deeply concerned about is putting American troops in the middle of this — the cross-hairs of this sectarian battle before the Iraqis" deliver on a series of promised reforms, said Sen. Norm Coleman (news, bio, voting record), R-Minn.

While he said he opposes deploying additional troops in Baghdad, Coleman added he wants to leave open the possibility of a bigger force in the Anbar province in the western part of the country.

Sen. Richard Lugar (news, bio, voting record) of Indiana, the committee's senior Republican, readily conceded he was not sure Bush's new policy would succeed. But he voted against the measure, saying, "It is unclear to me how passing a nonbinding resolution that the president has already said he will ignore will contribute to any improvement or modification of our Iraq policy."

Lugar also said sponsors of the measure were underestimating their power to force a change.

"We have the ability to require weekly updates from our diplomats and military commanders about the status in Iraq. We should be engaging the administration on almost a daily basis concerning the mission and needs of our troops," he said.

"We should demand of the president precise explanations of his political and diplomatic strategy. We should conduct what amounts to a continuous audit of our economic assistance, to ensure that we are maximizing results."

Some of the most emotional rhetoric of the day came as committee members challenged one another to take a stand.

"If you wanted a safe job, go sell shoes," said Hagel.

"This is a tough business. But is it any tougher, us having to take a tough vote, express ourselves and have the courage to step up on what we're asking our young men and women to do?"
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Post by XtremeJibber2001 »

In a calculated snub of President Bush, the Democratic-controlled Senate Foreign Relations Committee dismissed plans for a troop buildup in Iraq on Wednesday as "not in the national interest" of the United States.
Not in the national interest?

I could think of a plethora of things that are not in the national interest, but Dem's/Rep's do it anyway ... when it suits them, they'll throw the "not in the national interest" reason out there, but to be frank, they don't give a damn what we want.
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Agree. Not in national interest.
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Post by DMC_Freeride »

St. Jerry wrote:Agree. Not in national interest.
As a member of this nation - I agree as well...
"I asked you nicely to be nice. " - ShitSki

Thats like Hitler asking someone to buy kosher.

And now I am put on the Troll list like Diss was..
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Post by Dr. NO »

I like the Media take I heard today on this. Yep, they got backbone in the Senate committee and voted to do NOTHING to stop Bush from deploying more troops. They don't like it, but all they will do is say "We don't like it".

Too late to not like it or think it is not in the National Interrest. If it works, things will calm down. If it doesn't Congress will probably begin cutting Bush up on spending and other issues. They have little control over the war since they approved it.

Bad part is, 20,000 more are in harms way, Your interest, National Interest or not, they are on the front lines.
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Dr. NO wrote: If it doesn't Congress will probably begin cutting Bush up on spending and other issues.
I think he can only be hung for treason -- cutting him up would fall under cruel and unusual punishment.
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