killington cancelling lifetime passes

khatadin · Post by **khatadin** » May 14th, '07, 17:43

just received notice by mail. furious. this is the way the new company plans to treat some of its longstanding clientele?

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<table border="1"><tr align="center"><td>Username</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>Skidork</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>Tyrolean</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>Dr. NO</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>khatadin</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>Gunner</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>Vertical Bill</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>ijs12fly</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>skunky</td></tr><tr align="center"><td>Driz100</td></tr></table>

Highway Star · Post by **Highway Star** » May 14th, '07, 17:44

khatadin wrote:just received notice by mail. furious. this is the way the new company plans to treat some of its longstanding clientele?

DETAILS PLEASE!!!!

Thanks....

khatadin · Post by **khatadin** » May 14th, '07, 17:51

wife just called reading the letter to me. havent yet seen it myself. they plan to reward our 30 years of loyalty to the mountain with 1 year complementary pass, with blackout dates!!

needless to say, i will be mounting an all out grass roots effort to make my displeasure known to the new owners

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » May 14th, '07, 18:08

From the letter:

"The Pass was a benefit you or your predecessor in interest, received for being an initial investor in Sherburne Corporation during the resorts infancy. The specific language in your stock or bond certificate granted you "a pass entitling the holder to use free all ski lifts operated by the corporation in Killington Basin so long as the [Sherburne] corporation shall operate in that area under the agreement with the State of Vermont." When the resort changes ownership as part of this sale, Killington, LTD will no longer own or operate the lifts at the resort. Thus, ar the time of the transfer of ownership, your Pass will expire and the new Owners have no obligation to honor your pass.

If you are wondering why the rights under your pass survived the last sale of the resort it is because when we acquired Killington, we acquired the stock of Sherburne Corporation's parent (which owned other resorts in addition to Killington) and therefore Sherburne Corporation continued to operate the resort under an agreement with the State of Vermont, unlike in the current contemplated sale, where the new owners are acquiring the assets of the Killington and Pico Ski Resorts."

Post by **Bubba** » May 14th, '07, 18:15

According to someone I know, the letter came from Allen Wilson saying that as of the sale, the transferable bond passes will no longer be valid as they were purchased from Killington LTD which no longer operates ski lifts in the State of Vermont. It says Powdr bought the assets of Killington but not the company. It goes on to say that they will give people a full pass next year and a blackout type pass the year after. The matter has already been referred to counsel for review.

I would suggest that Powdr/SP take into account that pissing off their loyal customers and the locals will cause them a lot of grief and cost lots of money as they go forward with the permitting process.

Not a good way to get started, that's for sure!

nancie2k · Post by **nancie2k** » May 14th, '07, 18:15

they better honor my unused pass credit from last year

Killington_Lover · Post by **Killington_Lover** » May 14th, '07, 18:24

that is terrible. ill be the first... DOWN WITH POWDR!!!

RedRider · Post by **RedRider** » May 14th, '07, 18:26

Dork, Ty, Doc?

Post by **SkiDork** » May 14th, '07, 18:31

Yes, we got the letter. It's actually 1 full year, and another with black out dates.

Doc NO and shortski always used to maintain that the agreement on the pass was such that whoever ran the lifts had to honor the pass.

I'm not a lawyer but I'd certainly like to hear the opinion of an attorney on whether that has any merit.

HelmetCam · Post by **HelmetCam** » May 14th, '07, 18:35

get used to it folks. these people are here to make money.

millerm277 · Post by **millerm277** » May 14th, '07, 18:48

Well, based on the wording of that, it is perfectly within their rights to cancel the passes, as they are based on an investment in a company, that now has nothing to do with Killington.

Mister Moose · Post by **Mister Moose** » May 14th, '07, 18:49

Gunner, I see you're watching still. Must be particularly painful if this holds since you didn't get that many years on the pass. Skiing next year?

Gunner · Post by **Gunner** » May 14th, '07, 19:04

Mister Moose wrote:Gunner, I see you're watching still. Must be particularly painful if this holds since you didn't get that many years on the pass. Skiing next year?

Highly unlikely the I will be able to ski any of the next 2 years. Racing against time at work. Only a matter of time before my job is outsourced to India. Working on finishing my degree and putting my IT career behind me.

Post by **Bubba** » May 14th, '07, 19:15

SkiDork wrote:Yes, we got the letter. It's actually 1 full year, and another with black out dates.

Doc NO and shortski always used to maintain that the agreement on the pass was such that whoever ran the lifts had to honor the pass.

I'm not a lawyer but I'd certainly like to hear the opinion of an attorney on whether that has any merit.

I'd bet that this was vetted by lawyers so they're probably within their rights. On the other hand, they're making a stupid first step forward that will do nothing but cause animosity among a core block of customers. Anyone know how many of those passes are out there?

nancie2k · Post by **nancie2k** » May 14th, '07, 19:24

this happened to me once with a lifetime gym membership.
At least they let me continue for 10 years before yanking it away from me.

a lot of people were involved, and lawyers said there was nothing we could do about. The owner who i also spoke with said her lawyers said she could, apparently she had to wait out the ten years first in this instance.

Now i have a few machines in my house instead!!!!

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