Dobbs on the Money again ... rips Bush and Kennedy

[XtremeJibber2001]

You really come across as a simpleton on occasion, you know that?

Sure do, but I can only speak to what I know. Where are the numbers, Bubz?

[BigKahuna13]

it seems to me that he actually read the bill, which neither one of us has done.

And a Congressman who's for the bill is gonna say just the opposite. Why do you choose to believe one over the other?

[Bubba]

You really come across as a simpleton on occasion, you know that?

Sure do, but I can only speak to what I know. Where are the numbers, Bubz?

Oh ye of little intellect.....

Here are some easily available numbers, quoting from the U.S. Department of Justice · Office of Justice Programs
Bureau of Justice Statistics

The FY 2004 National Drug Control Budget reflects a significant restructuring from prior years. The drug budget now contains only those expenditures aimed at reducing drug use, rather than those associated with the consequences of drug use. The requested drug control funding amount for FY 2008 is approximately $12.9 billion. Budget figures presented here reflect this restructuring.


Total Federal drug control budget
(in millions)

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FY 2001 final 9,467.0
FY 2002 final 10,646.4
FY 2003 final 11,083.3
FY 2004 final 11,867.4
FY 2005 final 12,644.3
FY 2006 final 12,999.2
FY 2007 estimate 13,128.1
FY 2008 request 12,961.4

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Of those totals, the following apply to 2006 - 2008 in order:

Domestic law enforcement 3,474.7 3,597.0 3,652.2
Interdiction 3,285.6 3,372.9 3,292.1
International 1,434.5 1,356.2 1,399.3

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For comparison purposes, in FY01, asset seizures totaled $425 million.

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That's Federal only, not including (to the best of my knowledge) military budgets such as the Coast Guard and the Army which are also active in drug enforcement and interdiction. These figures don't include state and local level activity at all.

Ummm.......in the intellectual and factual game of chess, you have been checkmated in one move.

[nancie2k]

it seems to me that he actually read the bill, which neither one of us has done.

And a Congressman who's for the bill is gonna say just the opposite. Why do you choose to believe one over the other?

they don't say the opposite-they just don't tell you about these parts of the bill. Menendez had an editorial in the paper and none of these things were mentioned.

[BigKahuna13]

it seems to me that he actually read the bill, which neither one of us has done.

And a Congressman who's for the bill is gonna say just the opposite. Why do you choose to believe one over the other?

they don't say the opposite-they just don't tell you about these parts of the bill. Menendez had an editorial in the paper and none of these things were mentioned.

Seriously. You'd be much better off reading the thing yourself and drawing your own conclusions.

[Bubba]

it seems to me that he actually read the bill, which neither one of us has done.

And a Congressman who's for the bill is gonna say just the opposite. Why do you choose to believe one over the other?

they don't say the opposite-they just don't tell you about these parts of the bill. Menendez had an editorial in the paper and none of these things were mentioned.

Your post didn't comment on provisions of the bill dealing with aliens from outer space. Should I conclude, therefore, that the bill does or doesn't include such provisions?

[nancie2k]

it seems to me that he actually read the bill, which neither one of us has done.

And a Congressman who's for the bill is gonna say just the opposite. Why do you choose to believe one over the other?

they don't say the opposite-they just don't tell you about these parts of the bill. Menendez had an editorial in the paper and none of these things were mentioned.

Your post didn't comment on provisions of the bill dealing with aliens from outer space. Should I conclude, therefore, that the bill does or doesn't include such provisions?

Bubba wrote:
You really come across as a simpleton on occasion, you know that?

[Bubba]

it seems to me that he actually read the bill, which neither one of us has done.

And a Congressman who's for the bill is gonna say just the opposite. Why do you choose to believe one over the other?

they don't say the opposite-they just don't tell you about these parts of the bill. Menendez had an editorial in the paper and none of these things were mentioned.

Your post didn't comment on provisions of the bill dealing with aliens from outer space. Should I conclude, therefore, that the bill does or doesn't include such provisions?

Bubba wrote:
You really come across as a simpleton on occasion, you know that?

LOL.....I was only pointing out that you can't draw any conclusions from what someone doesn't say.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Bubba's new "to-do" list:

a.) Rip several bongs with XJ
b.) Drank a case of beer with XJ
c.) Repeat a and b

[CAPBOY]

Bubba's new "to-do" list:

a.) Rip several bongs with XJ
b.) Drank a case of beer with XJ
c.) Repeat a and b

Sounds like you are maintaining the part line. When's church?

Shame, scanned this thread and seems like ...... nah, I'm not going to say anything that would get me roped into this nonsense.

[junior]

70 - 80 % of the American people say STOP. This is not the bill we want passed but the know-it-alls on the hill think we are all stupid. 84 % of Republicans oppose the bill and 55 % of DEMOCRATS oppose it. It seems simple to me. All the American people are asking for is to secure the borders first and then deal with the folks here already.

At one point a large portion of the American population was for slavery. Did that make it right?

What did Lincoln say when he woke up after a three day drinking spree?

[CAPBOY]

70 - 80 % of the American people say STOP. This is not the bill we want passed but the know-it-alls on the hill think we are all stupid. 84 % of Republicans oppose the bill and 55 % of DEMOCRATS oppose it. It seems simple to me. All the American people are asking for is to secure the borders first and then deal with the folks here already.

At one point a large portion of the American population was for slavery. Did that make it right?

What did Lincoln say when he woke up after a three day drinking spree?

"Andrew, why is there a condom hanging out of my a$$?"

[XtremeJibber2001]

Bubba's new "to-do" list:

a.) Rip several bongs with XJ
b.) Drank a case of beer with XJ
c.) Repeat a and b

Sounds like you are maintaining the part line. When's church?

Shame, scanned this thread and seems like ...... nah, I'm not going to say anything that would get me roped into this nonsense.

Huh? "Part line"? Drinking again?

[CAPBOY]

Bubba's new "to-do" list:

a.) Rip several bongs with XJ
b.) Drank a case of beer with XJ
c.) Repeat a and b

Sounds like you are maintaining the part line. When's church?

Shame, scanned this thread and seems like ...... nah, I'm not going to say anything that would get me roped into this nonsense.

Huh? "Part line"? Drinking again?

Wow, first the IGP and now the ISP shows up. That being said, check your tense in the post, future or pat bra? Put the beer bong down and regenerate some brain cells.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Bubba's new "to-do" list:

a.) Rip several bongs with XJ
b.) Drank a case of beer with XJ
c.) Repeat a and b

Sounds like you are maintaining the part line. When's church?

Shame, scanned this thread and seems like ...... nah, I'm not going to say anything that would get me roped into this nonsense.

Huh? "Part line"? Drinking again?

Wow, first the IGP and now the ISP shows up. That being said, check your tense in the post, future or pat bra? Put the beer bong down and regenerate some brain cells.

.... not following you what-so-ever man. IGP? ISP? Pat Bra? No idea what you're talking about.

Beer bong, now that I understand ... 4th is around the corner, no way I'm putting it down just yet!