Speaking of Killington's Village Plans...

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millerm277
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Post by millerm277 »

Grandmontes wrote:No, the Village benefits skiers and Killington not existing property owners and businesses. More beds brings down the cost to skiers for a weekend due to increase in the supply of rentals. More skiers occuping existing rental property and new rental property , means Killington can sell more lift tickets.
Have you been to Killington? Rates for rooms are, and always have been dirt cheap. The village is not going to be the type of draw that it is at some other areas, because Killington is not in the middle of nowhere and in need of nightlife and lodging. There is a large city/town 10-15 minutes away, and there is an access road lined with stores, bars, and all types of hotels and motels.
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Re: Speaking of Killington's Village Plans...

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Bubba wrote:Initial phase of process starts next week (1/9) when SP Land goes to the Planning Commission to initiate the PUD renewal process. PC meeting has been moved to the library to fit the expected throng of interested parties. I've heard Steve Selbo will be making a fairly lengthy presentation on the village plan. Ought to be interesting to see the response of the community and the PC members and the level of detail that the PC will require, including whether they insist on an independent economic impact study.
"SP Land goes to the Planning Commission to initiate the PUD renewal process. "

So if Killington rejects the renewal process...can it be said that powdr just got it's "PUD Pulled"?

Hey There is your bumper sticker..."PULL POWDR'S "PUD"!!!
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millerm277 wrote:
Grandmontes wrote:No, the Village benefits skiers and Killington not existing property owners and businesses. More beds brings down the cost to skiers for a weekend due to increase in the supply of rentals. More skiers occuping existing rental property and new rental property , means Killington can sell more lift tickets.
Have you been to Killington? Rates for rooms are, and always have been dirt cheap. The village is not going to be the type of draw that it is at some other areas, because Killington is not in the middle of nowhere and in need of nightlife and lodging. There is a large city/town 10-15 minutes away, and there is an access road lined with stores, bars, and all types of hotels and motels.
If Killington builds more condo's those Sunrise Condo rentals will becoming down in price and every condo on the food chain from there. In essence, property in Killington will become nothing more than a luxury for those who own it.

Oh, and Killington is in the middle of nowhere in contrast to Mt. Tremblant which is an 1 1/2 from Montreal. Which means it will be tough to get a summer crowd up there.

And another thing. Killington is not 10 - 15 minutes from Rutland anymore then Sugarbush is 45 minutes from Killington.
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Grandmontes wrote:If one were to attempt to build a European artificial type village , one best read "out of control" by Kevin Kelly.

The only way an artificial village will work is if all of the shops and bars are on the same page. The key to a village is people walking through the village and patronizing it's shops. More trafic will lead to more trafic. Less traffic will lead to less traffic. The village is it's own advertizing.

Americans are basically either too stupid and or too greedy to understand this.

By the looks of it. Nyberg's Village will be a bunch of Ghost shops selling $1000 Vases and package shops selling Beer for $8.00 a six pack and Wine for $20 a bottle.
I would welcome $8 six packs - have you bought a six pack of good microbrew lately? - $8 is a bargain these days.
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Post by Grandmontes »

robrules wrote:
Grandmontes wrote:If one were to attempt to build a European artificial type village , one best read "out of control" by Kevin Kelly.

The only way an artificial village will work is if all of the shops and bars are on the same page. The key to a village is people walking through the village and patronizing it's shops. More trafic will lead to more trafic. Less traffic will lead to less traffic. The village is it's own advertizing.

Americans are basically either too stupid and or too greedy to understand this.

By the looks of it. Nyberg's Village will be a bunch of Ghost shops selling $1000 Vases and package shops selling Beer for $8.00 a six pack and Wine for $20 a bottle.
I would welcome $8 six packs - have you bought a six pack of good microbrew lately? - $8 is a bargain these days.
Point i'm trying to make is that charging even a 10% premium over a discount store is bad for an artificial village as a whole. What i mean by artificial as opposed to real, is that most of those European villages were there before ski resorts and are real. Same holds true for Telluride in Colorado.
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