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Highway Star wrote:
Oh, and Skippy Snow can't read....

skiingsnow wrote:

Highway Star wrote:
Oh, and Skippy Snow can't read.... :roll:

Not you too! I just read that little tid-bit about the Grand in the article...

If they spent around $35 M on the stuff they did do, then how was 3 new high speed lifts, a fixed quad, a new restaurant at the interconnect, another new restaurant at the peak, a bunch more renovations at the Peak, a new pipe cutter thingy, and cutting 6 miles of trail,

All going to cost $15 M ??

skiingsnow wrote:Look, I wasn't looking to argue about what happened, what didn't, or how ohh these guys sucked, they didn't deliver, or anything like that, nothing like that at all... Not trying to say old management or new management is any better, just saying it was a great little article, and a great plan, but plain and simple, did not happen...


I believe the snowmaking was only increased by 30%, never 50%...


"The Major renovations to the Killington Peak restaurant including a new restaurant within the existing building."

No new restaurant was ever been put in, and if the place fell apart that fast, they didn't do so good in renovating what little there is there now...


"There are also plans to offer night rides to the peak for fine dining and dancing"

Nope...


The new 1,200-foot snowboard park on Upper Bunny Buster will be lift-serviced.

Nope...


A new regulation halfpipe and snowboard park will be added at Pico Mountain, both lift-serviced.

Nope...


A new state-of-the-art shaping implement will cut and groom the halfpipes and parks at Killington.

Nope...


If Superstar Express was a brand new lift 8-10 years ago, it sure fell apart fast, has had many problems over the past several years, and looks like crap, makes a lot of noise too....

Highway Star wrote:

skiingsnow wrote:

Highway Star wrote:
Oh, and Skippy Snow can't read....

Not you too! I just read that little tid-bit about the Grand in the article...

If they spent around $35 M on the stuff they did do, then how was 3 new high speed lifts, a fixed quad, a new restaurant at the interconnect, another new restaurant at the peak, a bunch more renovations at the Peak, a new pipe cutter thingy, and cutting 6 miles of trail,

All going to cost $15 M ??

They did the refirb on Superstar as discussed, that is what they are talking about. They were only going to refirb the pico quad too. Probably around $1m.

They have had multiple pipe cutters over the years.

Anyway, what they did do between '97 and '01 probably did cost around $30-35M in reality. They are talking about $50M+ total. Evidently, things cost more than expected, and they ran out of money. The interconnect with two lifts is probably $15M, including the resteraunt.

Ballzout wrote:I remember the first time I came to Killington. It was January 2001.
There was a terrain park on Snowshed,
1 halfpipe in front of KBL,
Shaun Palmer boardercross,
and you could ski/ride old Sunrise Mountain.

skiingsnow wrote:

Highway Star wrote:

skiingsnow wrote:

Highway Star wrote:
Oh, and Skippy Snow can't read.... :roll:

Not you too! I just read that little tid-bit about the Grand in the article...

If they spent around $35 M on the stuff they did do, then how was 3 new high speed lifts, a fixed quad, a new restaurant at the interconnect, another new restaurant at the peak, a bunch more renovations at the Peak, a new pipe cutter thingy, and cutting 6 miles of trail,

All going to cost $15 M ??

They did the refirb on Superstar as discussed, that is what they are talking about. They were only going to refirb the pico quad too. Probably around $1m.

They have had multiple pipe cutters over the years.

Anyway, what they did do between '97 and '01 probably did cost around $30-35M in reality. They are talking about $50M+ total. Evidently, things cost more than expected, and they ran out of money. The interconnect with two lifts is probably $15M, including the resteraunt.

As anyone can see, I didn't read the whole article, only the headlines at the beginning and on down to half way down, then scimmed through all the details at the bottom... Didn't notice the details of the "new lifts", thought they were planning to completely replace...

Anywho, hope we get some new things this summer, and in a few years can get big new stuff, like the interconnect...

laseranimal wrote:

skiingsnow wrote:It is indeed a very well written exciting article!!!

But, half of it never happened, probably around $20 M was spent, no where near what they were talking about... Is that what you want powdr to do? Come out with this huge plan, and do some of it, and although they only spent half of what they said, you guys would still be really happy with that?

The new Killington Grand Hotel and Crown Club.

Check

A new state-of-the-art gondola to Killington Peak.

Check

Doubled snowmaking capacity with new water sources including a connection to Woodward Reservoir.

Check

The connection of Killington with Pico Mountain for seven interconnected mountains of skiing and riding, two new lifts and 110 acres of new terrain.[

Nope

Interconnect mid-mountain restaurant.

Nope

Major renovations to the Killington Peak restaurant including a new restaurant within the existing building.

Check(I think?)

Another 5,500 sq. ft. added to the 20,000 sq. ft. Rams Head Family Center.

Check(I think?)

A new pedestrian underpass from Rams Head to Snowshed.

Check

A new pedestrian bridge from Skyeship Base Station across Route 4 to the parking lot.

Check

Replacement lifts on the Superstar and Summit Express Quads.

Yes/No?

Two new halfpipes, one with an inverted "V," a permanent BoarderCross, a lift-serviced snowboard park, and a mini-halfpipe and halfpipe learning area.

Nope maybe it was done but its not there anymore


so by my count depending on whether the Quad lifts got done and if you count the fact that the parks may or may not have been done thats 8/11 tasks completed. Depends on what your definition of "half" is though

and yeah, you could argue all you want but $20 million invested out of a planned $50 million is a hell of a lot better then $6 million invested out of $6 million budgeted....

Like it of not K needs a MAJOR overhaul on its infrastructure before ANYONE is going to buy trophy home property there.

Killington will have the largest lift system in North America with 35 lifts including 14 quads and 7 high-speed express quads, the most in the East. The lift system is able to transport guests quickly to the diverse network of trails on seven mountains. The system will be more than 20 miles in length . . . long enough to stretch across Long Island Sound from Bridgeport, Conn. to Port Jefferson on Long Island.

Killington will have a resort footprint stretching more than six miles - bigger than the core of Washington, D.C. from the southeast to the northeast border of the city, and wider than most Western counterparts.

The shortest skiing route from the base of Sunrise Mountain to the base of Pico Mountain is 11 miles. If a guest were to ski or ride the shortest distance from one end of the resort to the other it would be like skiing or riding almost the entire length of Manhattan, or from anywhere along Route 128 to Boston.

Killington will offer more terrain than most could ski in a week- more than 100+ miles, the distance from Philadelphia to New York City.

RENO wrote:
The best thing they ever did was put in the connection to Woodward. Luckily they got that in before the economy and the market went down the toilet and ASC with it. Can you imagine the snowmaking now without that?