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DrJeff wrote:Q gets 5 years in the clink!

https://www.wcax.com/2022/04/29/kingdom ... -pTYIqqDhg
Got off easy.

At least he got the water park built. They really needed that up there.....

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hillbangin wrote: Apr 29th, '22, 15:07
DrJeff wrote:Q gets 5 years in the clink!

https://www.wcax.com/2022/04/29/kingdom ... -pTYIqqDhg
Got off easy.

At least he got the water park built. They really needed that up there.....

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The article states he "pocketed $50 million" and had to pay $8 million in restitution. Very simple math, but it appears he's netting $42 mil in exchange for 5 years in prison. I'd take 3 hots and a cot for $8 mil/year for 5 years.
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spanky wrote: Apr 29th, '22, 16:21 The article states he "pocketed $50 million" and had to pay $8 million in restitution. Very simple math, but it appears he's netting $42 mil in exchange for 5 years in prison. I'd take 3 hots and a cot for $8 mil/year for 5 years.
The $50 million was pre SEC intervention. Rmember the spaghetti chart? He then surrendered $80 mil:

"Quiros and Stenger settled civil charges with the SEC, with Quiros surrendering more than $80 million in assets, including the two resorts."

Quiros provided financial statements as part of the process. You can be sure he wasn't left with $50 million. I remember reading his net worth was barely a few million pre Jay Peak, and that essentially all of his subsequent assets were seized.
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spanky wrote: Apr 29th, '22, 16:21 The article states he "pocketed $50 million" and had to pay $8 million in restitution. Very simple math, but it appears he's netting $42 mil in exchange for 5 years in prison. I'd take 3 hots and a cot for $8 mil/year for 5 years.
The $50 million was pre SEC intervention. Rmember the spaghetti chart? He then surrendered $80 mil:

"Quiros and Stenger settled civil charges with the SEC, with Quiros surrendering more than $80 million in assets, including the two resorts."

Quiros provided financial statements as part of the process. You can be sure he wasn't left with $50 million. I remember reading his net worth was barely a few million pre Jay Peak, and that essentially all of his subsequent assets were seized.
Hence my “simple math” comment. He probably still got off too easy.
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Some of his comments stretch credulity

In exclusive interview, Bill Stenger discusses regrets in EB-5 investment fraud scandal
Vermont Public Radio | By Liam Elder-Connors
Published June 3, 2022 at 10:47 AM EDT

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Just when you think it’s over, Quiros asks for reduced sentence.


https://www.wcax.com/2022/12/22/ariel-q ... -sentence/
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What, is he dying from some dread disease? he got off easy, potential sentence was much more as i recall.
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Good luck with that.
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Here's the letter to the court: https://webpubcontent.gray.tv/wcax/docs/Quiros.pdf

a lot of me +me, my + my. a hollow apology at best, mostly to the court no less, barely to the victims. i'm un-moved, hope the judge feels the same.
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Stenger claims state covered up EB-5 fraud

https://vtdigger.org/2023/02/03/an-unkn ... eak-fraud/
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Glad you're staying on this. from the article:
Shumlin was “our most powerful and effective investment solicitor,” Stenger said. The governor attended EB-5 immigrant investor events in the United States and internationally. In those meetings, Shumlin made it a practice to “describe the state's role in the VRC-Jay Peak relationship as that of an auditor,”
he may be 'not entirely wrong', but too late. he could've walked away at anytime, instead, he likely took advice from that pos quiros and stuck with it.
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Stenger wants to reduce his restitution payment by $250K.

https://vermontbiz.com/news/2023/april/ ... 00-payment
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Government responds to Stenger’s request to void restitution order.

https://vtdigger.org/2023/05/03/prosecu ... ion-order/
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