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madhatter wrote:for many people lame duck is far preferable to hillary

We agree on this!

madhatter wrote:virtually impossible to see significant enough D gains in 2018 to make much of a difference...

Uh huh, probably about the same chances Gump had of being elected POTUS in 2016.

Coydog wrote:

madhatter wrote:virtually impossible to see significant enough D gains in 2018 to make much of a difference...

Uh huh, probably about the same chances Gump had of being elected POTUS in 2016.

you must still wonder why hillary wasn't ahead by 50 pts...we all knew it would be at least close...being a realist the D's have a huge uphill battle in 2018 even if they field some candidates who are far more moderate than the leaders and faces of the party are now...very few friendly races for the D's in 2018...doubling down ( once again) on the strategy of the past 8 years is a surefire way to more losses...cankle or warren 2020 will go down in flames...anything can happen but nothing has happened to indicate any kind of shift thus far...w/o reform and resurrection of the democrat party and platform towards a more moderate stance they won;t be seeing many victories outside of dumfukistan...

madhatter wrote:

Coydog wrote:

madhatter wrote:virtually impossible to see significant enough D gains in 2018 to make much of a difference...

Uh huh, probably about the same chances Gump had of being elected POTUS in 2016.

you must still wonder why hillary wasn't ahead by 50 pts...we all knew it would be at least close...being a realist the D's have a huge uphill battle in 2018 even if they field some candidates who are far more moderate than the leaders and faces of the party are now...very few friendly races for the D's in 2018...doubling down ( once again) on the strategy of the past 8 years is a surefire way to more losses...cankle or warren 2020 will go down in flames...anything can happen but nothing has happened to indicate any kind of shift thus far...w/o reform and resurrection of the democrat party and platform towards a more moderate stance they won;t be seeing many victories outside of dumfukistan...

Pretty sure Dumfukistan is a red state.

Coydog wrote:

madhatter wrote:

Coydog wrote:

madhatter wrote:virtually impossible to see significant enough D gains in 2018 to make much of a difference...

Uh huh, probably about the same chances Gump had of being elected POTUS in 2016.

you must still wonder why hillary wasn't ahead by 50 pts...we all knew it would be at least close...being a realist the D's have a huge uphill battle in 2018 even if they field some candidates who are far more moderate than the leaders and faces of the party are now...very few friendly races for the D's in 2018...doubling down ( once again) on the strategy of the past 8 years is a surefire way to more losses...cankle or warren 2020 will go down in flames...anything can happen but nothing has happened to indicate any kind of shift thus far...w/o reform and resurrection of the democrat party and platform towards a more moderate stance they won;t be seeing many victories outside of dumfukistan...

Pretty sure Dumfukistan is red state.

just not quite sure enough to be right...but i guess you could be talking about virginia, sadly it;s been annexed...not sure we really want it back either...

The labels on your map are incorrect. I believe the blue areas constitute the "United States of Canada" and the red ones are "Jesus Country".

These hearings are nothing but a Horse and Pony show. Yawn.

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:These hearings are nothing but a Horse and Pony show. Yawn.

now there's a shocker...

Cankle is still under investigation by the FBI. Covfefe

Comey Testifies AG Lynch 'Pressured' Him To Use Clinton Campaign Language; "It Gave Me A Queasy Feeling"


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-0 ... me-queasy-" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

*COMEY: CONCERNED WITH AG DIRECTIVE ON CLINTON `MATTER'
*COMEY: LYNCH'S LANGUAGE `TRACKED' CLINTON CAMPAIGN'S
*COMEY: GAVE IMPRESSION LYNCH WAS LOOKING TO ALIGN W/CAMPAIGN
*COMEY SAYS HE HAD `QUEASY FEELING' AFTER LYNCH INTERACTION

Comey said Lynch instructed Comey not to call the criminal investigation into the Clinton server a criminal investigation. Instead, Lynch told Comey to call it a “matter,” Comey said, “which confused me.” Comey cited that pressure from Lynch to downplay the investigation as one of the reasons he held a press conference to recommend the Department of Justice not seek to indict Clinton

“Probably the only other consideration that I guess I can talk about in an open setting is that at one point, the attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter, which confused me and concerned me,” he said when asked about the email investigation.

Comey went ahead and followed her orders because "that was not a hill i wanted to die on..."

I think they're gonna need a bigger bar before this is all said and done...hopefully our new FBI director will get this resolved...

1) The utter politicization of the Justice Department (from the top-down) under Obama, has now been exposed as "fact" if Comey is to be believed.

2) Why did Comey think that a Clinton "Hill" was not worth dying on, but a Trump "Hill" was?

3) Why didn't Comey "memorialize" this conversation in one of his memos at the time... as he said he did immediately after his Trump conversation?

4) So the only official to "pressure" Comey during his tenure was Loretta Lynch?

5) What would happen if AG Sessions colluded with the FBI Director to alter their statements about a Trump investigation for political reasons?
But hey, let's spend the day ignoring that focusing on speculation about Trump and his "Russian hookers" obsession. We leave you with this...

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Stefan Molyneux ✔ @StefanMolyneux
Holy sh*t! James Comey just admitted to colluding with Loretta Lynch to falsify his statements to benefit Hillary Clinton's campaign.
11:55 AM - 8 Jun 2017

dangwhoever expected this investigation that the democrats howled and begged for would end up hurting them the most? oh yeah madhatter that's who...but to be fair so did trump when he trolled the D's in to begging in the first place...

madhatter wrote:

1) The utter politicization of the Justice Department (from the top-down) under Obama, has now been exposed as "fact" if Comey is to be believed.

2) Why did Comey think that a Clinton "Hill" was not worth dying on, but a Trump "Hill" was?

3) Why didn't Comey "memorialize" this conversation in one of his memos at the time... as he said he did immediately after his Trump conversation?

4) So the only official to "pressure" Comey during his tenure was Loretta Lynch?

5) What would happen if AG Sessions colluded with the FBI Director to alter their statements about a Trump investigation for political reasons?
But hey, let's spend the day ignoring that focusing on speculation about Trump and his "Russian hookers" obsession. We leave you with this...

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Stefan Molyneux ✔ @StefanMolyneux
Holy sh*t! James Comey just admitted to colluding with Loretta Lynch to falsify his statements to benefit Hillary Clinton's campaign.
11:55 AM - 8 Jun 2017

dangwhoever expected this investigation that the democrats howled and begged for would end up hurting them the most? oh yeah madhatter that's who...but to be fair so did trump when he trolled the D's in to begging in the first place...

That's your take away? The AG asked him to call it something other than an investigation and that's your beef? Everything else Comey shared was cool with you? You seem to have a hard time being objective on this

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:

madhatter wrote:

1) The utter politicization of the Justice Department (from the top-down) under Obama, has now been exposed as "fact" if Comey is to be believed.

2) Why did Comey think that a Clinton "Hill" was not worth dying on, but a Trump "Hill" was?

3) Why didn't Comey "memorialize" this conversation in one of his memos at the time... as he said he did immediately after his Trump conversation?

4) So the only official to "pressure" Comey during his tenure was Loretta Lynch?

5) What would happen if AG Sessions colluded with the FBI Director to alter their statements about a Trump investigation for political reasons?
But hey, let's spend the day ignoring that focusing on speculation about Trump and his "Russian hookers" obsession. We leave you with this...

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Stefan Molyneux ✔ @StefanMolyneux
Holy sh*t! James Comey just admitted to colluding with Loretta Lynch to falsify his statements to benefit Hillary Clinton's campaign.
11:55 AM - 8 Jun 2017

dangwhoever expected this investigation that the democrats howled and begged for would end up hurting them the most? oh yeah madhatter that's who...but to be fair so did trump when he trolled the D's in to begging in the first place...

That's your take away? The AG asked him to call it something other than an investigation and that's your beef? Everything else Comey shared was cool with you? huh? You seem to have a hard time being objective on this

umm there will be an investigation into why lynch directed comey to use clinton approved language that was clearly crafted to take political heat off clinton who was indeed under criminal investigation...a fact clinton in concert with lynch helped to craft a narrative to cover up...that's the sitting AG helping the sitting party;s nominee for president cover up an investigation...why? she; supposed to be apolitical? she was supposed to have nothing to do with politics and her conversation with bill Clinton was supposedly innocuous yet here we have come have comey at the behest of of lynch falsifying his statements to congress in order to help further a political narrative in favor of clinton...

I have no interest in being objective I'm looking for evidence of a crime I'm out to hang clinton and anyone in the obama administration who abused public office and apparatus for political power but IF she isn't guilty then she gets to walk...but she needs to be charged and stand trial.. same w anyone else involved...present real evidence of a crime to a grand jury, not some MSM fantasy verdict... just like the investigation of trumps team, we already know and knew that trump wasn't involved in any participatory way and thus far no one else has been implicated either...but if there's more evidecne to be weighed birng it to a grand jury...


sorry but the whole bill clinton/ lynch/comey/ lynch recusal comey acting as judge jury and executioner with a bizarre press conference way outside his legal authority doesn't add up...well it does, it adds up to a coverup the question is who was involved? who knew what when? and that's what this investigation will become most famous for uncovering... that was obvious from the get go too...the D's got played by dumb donnie into insisting on an investigation that will uncover their corruption w no one left behind to provide cover for them...shocking...

same w trump, investigate present evidence to a grand jury and ask for an indictment if you think you have a case...

so we have evidence of conspiracy to tamper with a US election with lynch and comey with lynch directing comey to falsify his statements before congress regarding clinton...( who else was involved or are they simply lone wolves who love HRC so much they were willing to put their careers at risk)

bring whatever evidence of collusion or obstruction the D;s have against trump to a grand jury if they think they have a case...

I'm fine w that, I want answers to all of it...

hope that unreasonable prosecutor gets appointed soon....seems that's all that was missing...