Oregon Community College Shooting

[madhatter]

I wouldn't expect you to agree. again w the comprehension??n I DID agree s some of what you said and suggested we enforce those laws since they are already on the books... your atf fantasy was addressed by SS as was nearly every other "point" you attempted to make......You've openly threatened to "cap" a member of this forum. nope never happened... as usual you see things through your distorted lens and fail to comprehend what was written...i've never threatened anyone in any way, here or anywhere else, nice try though...

You're part of the problem with gun violence in this country. You're no different than the ghetto thugs on the Southside of Chicago.

typical alinsky tactics.. demonize your opponent then rail against said demon... perfect...again you have absolutely no clue wtf you are talking about you just make it up as you go along...absolutely no record of violence or any type in my history ever, never been arrested for anything, no DUI ever, not even a traffic ticket in the last 20+ years...pass the background check every time I make a purchase...again you just make sh!t up to suit your narrative... seems you have some mental issues you need to address, hopefully you don't have a gun cuz yer clearly mentally ill....

[madhatter]

My bad. You're correct Steamboat.

Low information.....

yep all the time w DHS, apples to oranges, straw men, lofo/nofo/misinformed/wilfully ignorant, blinded by ideology alinskyite ...w minimal comprehension skills as well ( whether that's intentional or not is up for debate I suppose)

[deadheadskier]

Threat was at woodsrider. Indirect, but implied. Something along the lines of, "I've gone this far without capping someone, I don't want to start now."

Fact

Never mind all the boasting you've made through the years about all the Pb you've got to protect you're Au at your place.

That glorification of guns and your willingness to use them is no different than ghetto thugs language on the Southside of Chicago.

Like I said, you're part of the problem. A thug. I don't expect you to agree with my desire for greater gun controls. You're a thug.

[Woodsrider]

Threat was at woodsrider. Indirect, but implied. Something along the lines of, "I've gone this far without capping someone, I don't want to start now."

Fact

Never mind all the boasting you've made through the years about all the Pb you've got to protect you're Au at your place.

That glorification of guns and your willingness to use them is no different than ghetto thugs language on the Southside of Chicago.

Like I said, you're part of the problem. A thug. I don't expect you to agree with my desire for greater gun controls. You're a thug.

How do I keep getting pulled into this sh*t?

That's alright DH. You make a good point. No offense taken.

I was thinking about this recently while ripping through NYC traffic. I can buy a gun at Walmart. But I need to take 2 tests and get a license to drive a car. I can drink and drug and carry my gun but if I do that while driving I go to jail. Wtf.
So I decided that I should be able to drive as fast as I want wherever and whenever I want. Right? I mean guns don't kill, bullets do. So speed doesn't kill either, it's the sudden stop that kills. I'm just not going to stop. f*** it's my right as an American. If you don't like it stay off the sidewalk.

[Bubba]

You skipped over the spectator vs participant distinction. A porn move is not a participant activity. Even for Pee-wee Herman.

Point taken. Just wanted to understand the distinction.

[Bubba]

I was thinking about this recently while ripping through NYC traffic. I can buy a gun at Walmart. But I need to take 2 tests and get a license to drive a car. I can drink and drug and carry my gun but if I do that while driving I go to jail. Wtf.
So I decided that I should be able to drive as fast as I want wherever and whenever I want. Right? I mean guns don't kill, bullets do. So speed doesn't kill either, it's the sudden stop that kills. I'm just not going to stop. f*** it's my right as an American. If you don't like it stay off the sidewalk.

The difference (as I'm sure you know) is that driving a car is a privilege. Owning a gun is a constitutional right.

[madhatter]

Threat was at woodsrider. Indirect, but implied. Something along the lines of, "I've gone this far without capping someone, I don't want to start now."post it up for context, cuz your paraphrase is way off, no surprise...

Fact

Never mind all the boasting you've made through the years about all the Pb you've got to protect you're Au at your place.you should post all those "boasts" right up...

That glorification of guns and your willingness to use them all stuff I've never said done or implied yet you wholeheartedly imagine as reality....is no different than ghetto thugs language on the Southside of Chicago.

Like I said, you're part of the problem. A thug. so a guy on the internet that you don;t even know is the problem??? brilliant....your opinion of someone you know absolutely nothing about and just make baseless accusations towards based on your poor comprehension and delusions is the problem??? a law abiding gun owner who has never had a record of any type is the problem??? a person who can legally carry and never does is the problem??? but lets face it to you reality is what echo's around in your seemingly empty head, facts be damned ...seems to me the problem is idiots like you who imagine themselves as so superior that others should heed their will on request...I don't expect you to agree with my desire for greater gun controls. You're a thug.

thug
THəɡ/
noun
noun: thug; plural noun: thugs; noun: Thug

1.
a violent person, especially a criminal.

guess not then since neither of those apply...keep making sh!t up...its all you got...

yer an idiot w zero comprehension skills, zero ability to rebut, and minimal topic knowledge,everything you've posted has been shot down in flames so now its time for you to continue to attack me as if you have any idea whatsoever who I am, your only goal is to demonize and draw attn away form your completely inept argument...even though I actually agreed with the portions of your "idea" that weren't ridiculous fantasies... but by all means please carry on w your baseless rants and character assassination, I'm sure libel means nothing to you....

[Mister Moose]

It's you low information folk who say,...

That's a very poor way to start out if you want credibility.

I'd expect you to also call out those others with the constant "libtard" this and that, but I don't see that from you.

I've called out Mad Hatter previously for the exact same thing.

And regarding the war on drugs, I'm assuming if you're going to draw a parallel with gun laws, that you'd be supportive of law changes allowing any law abiding adult to get their hands on potentially lethal substances like heroin and cocaine.

No, because there is no constitutional right, and there is no constructive use for heroin.

I do think government needs to try harder to curtail gun violence.

I agree, but knee jerk feel good laws accomplish nothing. Gun law activists need to find ways to improve the situation that 1) do not take away rights, 2) do not punish or impair the innocent, 3) Have some chance of working. Passing laws for criminals to follow really makes no sense, yet some keep proposing just that. There is risk in a free society. You can't remove all risk.

"He who would trade liberty for security will soon have neither" is a very prophetic and true quote. The anti gun lobby needs to better understand it.

[deadheadskier]

If you agree and think the government needs to work harder to try and curtail gun violence then how about some ideas.

Here is my biggest issue with most of the pro second amendment crowd, they rarely offer solutions to this problem other than "more guns." If you're serious about fixing the problem, perhaps reaching across to other side and at least try and come to a compromise on some ideas.

[Mister Moose]

If you agree and think the government needs to work harder to try and curtail gun violence then how about some ideas.

Here is my biggest issue with most of the pro second amendment crowd, they rarely offer solutions to this problem other than "more guns." If you're serious about fixing the problem, perhaps reaching across to other side and at least try and come to a compromise on some ideas.

"More guns" is not necessarily a bad thing. Should there be armed guards at schools? Should there be licensed and trained teachers that carry, just like some airline pilots do? The Secret Service seems to think that "more guns" is a perfectly good idea to protect high ranking government officials.

However, you have struck your own answer within the question you have raised: "If you agree and think the government needs to work harder to try and curtail gun violence"... The key word there is violence. The gun is just the adjective. Curtailing violence is always desirable, but never completely achievable. Our government already makes huge strides in curtailing violence every day. Improving those methods to reduce violence further is a worthwhile goal. It will never be zero. You need to accept that, and frame your ideas around both that and our personal freedoms.

Wife beatings still happen, but we require no marriage training. Infanticide happens, but we issue no licenses to have a baby. We are willing so far as a society to accept those losses in the name of freedom. Why is it different with a defensive weapon by a law abiding citizen, ie a gun?

And don't ask to make compromises on the Bill of Rights for the sake of getting along. That is one of the best documents to ever come down the pike. Fixing the problem is rarely about compromise. Fixing the problem is about the implementing the best solution there is, considering all factors.

[deadheadskier]

Again, I have never once said I want to see guns taken out of the hands of law abiding citizens.

And thank you for at least providing some ideas. I would not have issue with more armed security, training teachers etc. Those are reasonable professional solutions.

[steamboat1]

[steamboat1]

I'd expect you to also call out those others with the constant "libtard" this and that

Funny chit coming from you......

Really amazes me.

There's a word for that.

Can't think of it now.

[steamboat1]

By the way this thread should go to the political forum.

Not my call

[deadheadskier]

Agreed, should be moved