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Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 14th, '16, 18:33
by XtremeJibber2001
This time in Nice, France. 70+ dead, 100+ injured

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/europe/ni ... index.html

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 14th, '16, 19:32
by steamboat1
Lets bring them over here. Not to worry our administration said they'd be fully vetted.

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 14th, '16, 20:53
by freeski
Bringing ISIS refugees in is a great idea. :roll: I'm still for carpet bombing Raqqa. :like

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 05:21
by Atomic1
More from Obamas " Religion of Peace " !............ Radical Islam is at war with the world and the United States needs a leader to lead by taking the appropriate actions not a divider like we have now or a puppet who Lies whenever they speak ! Let's look back at history and see how we handled things and take action before it's too late !

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 05:53
by deadheadskier
What do you recommend Atomic?

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 06:29
by madhatter
carpet bombing raqqa is a start...highly publicizing every elimination of ISIS and ISIS strongholds,president s douchebag could STFU instead of consistently praising islam as a religion of peace etc...we all know the difference between ISIS and islam...stop lending legitimacy to their movement by calling it ISIL...stop releasing gitmo prisoners back into the system...make it well known that if you are an ISIS, aid and abet ISIS or in any way support ISIS you are a criminal and will be treated as such...EVERY time we have footage of a convoy we should have footage of that convoy being destroyed...

some will pretend ( like our @sshole POS and his thurd term wannabe) that this will only serve to motivate ISIS...Good everyone of them should choose a suicide mission and carry it out asap...we should bring this before NATO as has been suggested by some and from there develop a plan of exponential reciprocation, you kill one of ours we kill 1000 of yours....and make it well known that wherever this sh!t comes up it will be dealt with immediately and in the most severe manner... not tsarnaev on the cover of rolling stone but tsarnaev under cover of 6 ft of dirt...not workplace violence, not isolated incidents, not "we don't know the motives", not " this is not islam" , but severe and unwavering exponential reciprocation until the last thing anyone wants to do is become part of ISIS...


Trump 2016

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 07:14
by deadheadskier
So basically genocide?

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 07:19
by madhatter
deadheadskier wrote:So basically genocide?
you really cannot read or comprehend can you?

we are not the aggressor here, ISIS is committing genocide vs "infidels" we are merely protecting ourselves both from the actual acts perpetrated by them and by attempting to eliminate the possibility of those attacks by eliminating the IDEOLOGY that promotes it... eliminating an IDEOLOGY requires making that IDEOLOGY so painfully impossible to participate in, embrace or support to the point that NO ONE want to be part of it...

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 07:34
by steamboat1
What's your suggestion DHS?

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 07:38
by Bubba
madhatter wrote:carpet bombing raqqa is a start...highly publicizing every elimination of ISIS and ISIS strongholds We've been doing that for quite some time,president s douchebag could STFU instead of consistently praising islam as a religion of peace etc...we all know the difference between ISIS and islam...stop lending legitimacy to their movement by calling it ISIL...stop releasing gitmo prisoners back into the system Agreed...make it well known that if you are an ISIS, aid and abet ISIS or in any way support ISIS you are a criminal and will be treated as such That's also being done, although the constitution has its protections...EVERY time we have footage of a convoy we should have footage of that convoy being destroyed Also being done regularly, although the news doesn't always find these videos newsworthy enough...

some will pretend ( like our @sshole POS and his thurd term wannabe) that this will only serve to motivate ISIS...Good everyone of them should choose a suicide mission and carry it out asap...we should bring this before NATO as has been suggested by some and from there develop a plan of exponential reciprocation, you kill one of ours we kill 1000 of yours Let's do the math - 84 people died in Nice last night, that means roughly 84,000 must die....and make it well known that wherever this sh!t comes up it will be dealt with immediately and in the most severe manner... not tsarnaev on the cover of rolling stone Well, go talk to Rolling Stone but tsarnaev under cover of 6 ft of dirt...not workplace violence, not isolated incidents, not "we don't know the motives", not " this is not islam" , but severe and unwavering exponential reciprocation until the last thing anyone wants to do is become part of ISIS...


Trump 2016
Other than what he says, it doesn't seem like you have that much to add to what he does. Carpet bombing Raqqa would kill thousands of citizens who are victims of ISIS. We have more drone strikes in more countries than under GWB; we're publicizing the deaths of ISIS leaders when they occur; we're seeing video footage of convoys and other targets being destroyed; the only thing we're not doing from what I can tell is killing people at a ratio of 1000 - 1, and I'm not sure where you'll find all those ISIS people and supporters to carry out that plan.

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 07:58
by deadheadskier
steamboat1 wrote:What's your suggestion DHS?
I think the only way this stops has to come from the highest religious leadership in Islam. There needs to be a wholesale denouncement of Sharia law and it's complete removal from the religion.

Yes, we can use tactics of war. Carpet bombing is an act of genocide unless you know a very high percentage of who you are bombing are a threat. What percentage of Raqqa are ISIS followers.

One thing we know is that radical Islamists aren't afraid of death. You kill one and another kid growing up just joins the ranks. Unless we can find a way for to get the good Muslims to police against the bad Muslims at a wholesale level, we will perpetually be putting out fires.

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 08:03
by madhatter
Bubba wrote:
madhatter wrote:carpet bombing raqqa is a start...highly publicizing every elimination of ISIS and ISIS strongholds We've been doing that for quite some timenot really...that s/b on tv and the news EVERY day...EVERY time and s/b occuring with greater intensity and greater frequency, we are doing little more than tossing pebbles a t a bees nest....,president s douchebag could STFU instead of consistently praising islam as a religion of peace etc...we all know the difference between ISIS and islam...stop lending legitimacy to their movement by calling it ISIL...stop releasing gitmo prisoners back into the system Agreed...make it well known that if you are an ISIS, aid and abet ISIS or in any way support ISIS you are a criminal and will be treated as such That's also being done, although the constitution has its protectionsNO it's not, we continually excuse ISIS oroiented attacks as "lone wolf" " we don;t knwo the motive" "this is not islam" bla bla bla excuses ...EVERY time we have footage of a convoy we should have footage of that convoy being destroyed Also being done regularly, although the news doesn't always find these videos newsworthy enoughthen I guess they don;t recognize the severity of the problem or they don't support the efforts to elimintate...

some will pretend ( like our @sshole POS and his thurd term wannabe) that this will only serve to motivate ISIS...Good everyone of them should choose a suicide mission and carry it out asap...we should bring this before NATO as has been suggested by some and from there develop a plan of exponential reciprocation, you kill one of ours we kill 1000 of yours Let's do the math - 84 people died in Nice last night, that means roughly 84,000 must die....and make it well known that wherever this sh!t comes up it will be dealt with immediately and in the most severe manner... not tsarnaev on the cover of rolling stone Well, go talk to Rolling Stone that RS thinks its a good idea and what peopel want means we have long way to go to make ISIS the equivalent of supporting child rape or other heinous acts that NO ONE would ever proudly associate with...but tsarnaev under cover of 6 ft of dirt...not workplace violence, not isolated incidents, not "we don't know the motives", not " this is not islam" , but severe and unwavering exponential reciprocation until the last thing anyone wants to do is become part of ISIS...


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Other than what he says, it doesn't seem like you have that much to add to what he does. Carpet bombing Raqqa would kill thousands of citizens who are victims of ISIS. so did nagasaki and hiroshima, bummer...chemotherapy kills lots of "innocents" too in its task of eliminating the threat... We have more drone strikes in more countries than under GWB;we have better drone technology, we still have a lot more might than that and we aren't using it... we're publicizing the deaths of ISIS leaders when they occur; we're seeing video footage of convoys and other targets being destroyed; the only thing we're not doing from what I can tell is killing people at a ratio of 1000 - 1, and I'm not sure where you'll find all those ISIS people and supporters to carry out that plan.
bla bla bla you take one hyperbolic ( 1000-1 )as a literal statement then hyperbolize the rest, do you ever actually read w the intent of comprehending or just to counter?

IF only 1% of all muslims are radical

and

" A figure of 10-20 million represents approximately 1% of the Muslim population."

then

84k is far too few...


perhaps 1000-1 was too low of a ratio to be effective...

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 08:04
by f.a.s.t.
deadheadskier wrote:So basically genocide?
Yes, genocide against all terrorist. The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist. Exterminate them like rats and cockroaches. Have no mercy on them, THEY ARE NOT HUMAN.

Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 08:18
by madhatter
deadheadskier wrote:
steamboat1 wrote:What's your suggestion DHS?
I think the only way this stops has to come from the highest religious leadership in Islam. There needs to be a wholesale denouncement of Sharia law and it's complete removal from the religion.that is almost surely never going to happen, sharia is a the foundation of the koran and islam though of course one could argue about the interpretations and extent to which they s/b taken, still unlikely to happen...

Yes, we can use tactics of war. Carpet bombing is an act of genocide unless you know a very high percentage of who you are bombing are a threat. What percentage of Raqqa are ISIS followers.near zero once its bombed into oblivion I'd think...

One thing we know is that radical Islamists aren't afraid of death. You kill one and another kid growing up just joins the ranks. not after ya carpet bomb their strongholds into oblivion, they may not be afraid to die for a cause they find worthwhile but if joining isis means immediate death with zero contribution to the cause, volunteers will become scarce...Unless we can find a way for to get the good Muslims to police against the bad Muslims at a wholesale level,yeah exactly what I mean by make it something that NO ONE will want to be associated with or in favor of, that's far from the case now where the opposition to jihad from within the muslim ranks is tepid to non-existent at best and it is actually condoned and celebrated in many circles.... we will perpetually be putting out fires.
MOST americans know that MANY ( perhaps even most, particularly in america) muslims are not radical jihadis, as was evidenced by the lack of attacks and retaliation on muslims post 911...why does hopey dope have to continually remind us of something we all know? all it does is add credence to the idea that muslims are somehow victims of american repression and thus are justified in feeling slighted and perhaps feeling some sort of sympathy or loyalty to "the cause"... he does the same thing w race issues...instead of wholeheartedly condemning these acts he always has to add in a "BUT" that completely contradicts and eliminates any condemnation he has for said act as nothing more than lip service, giving it all the sincerity of the proverbial "wink, wink"


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Re: Another Terror Attack

Posted: Jul 15th, '16, 08:35
by freeski
First, Hollande's hair looked great last night. After the Paris attacks Hollande wanted to invoke NATO article 5, an attack on one... Obama did not want to declare war. So here we are. We need to wipe out all ISIS AND Raqqa, shock and awe. Don't hit the civilian areas, but error on the side of destroying the enemy. Have NATO planes the air 24/7 to take out anyone fleeing the city. Killing the leaders has no effect. No way the muslims in this part of the world will ever drop saria. (No caps on purpose.) Sad but true, we also have to kill the kids. They are all ready hard wired. This is like trying to wipeout cockroaches. Destroy the nests then get them all including eggs or they'll just come back. Obama will try and minimalize this attack. He does not think we are at war.