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Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 7th, '16, 12:51
by SnoBrdr
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
I bet the # won't be as high as that of those killed by your ancestors who butchered those poor Indian women and children.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 7th, '16, 12:59
by tt431

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 7th, '16, 13:22
by daytripper
SnoBrdr wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
I bet the # won't be as high as that of those killed by your ancestors who butchered those poor Indian women and children.
And what about the ancestors and their children who butchered by the Indians? You act like the Indians never hurt a soul!

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 7th, '16, 13:50
by SnoBrdr
daytripper wrote:
SnoBrdr wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
I bet the # won't be as high as that of those killed by your ancestors who butchered those poor Indian women and children.
And what about the ancestors and their children who butchered by the Indians? You act like the Indians never hurt a soul!
Two wrongs don't make a right.

He bragged about his relatives and a little research turned up the massacre.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 7th, '16, 15:43
by Highway Star
TRIGGER WARNING!!!



Good discussion of culture vs. immigration.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 7th, '16, 16:01
by f.a.s.t.
Stormchaser wrote:Stereotyping all Muslims as dangerous based on the actions of few is wrong. Protecting Americans from domestic terrorists is right. Understanding the difference isn't always easy. Vetting of refugees from war torn areas for potential terrorists makes sense, but is tough to accomplish as most records get destroyed. The entrance of Syrian refugees from terrorist states must be with outstanding oversight to ensure protection, but simply banning Muslims from travelling to America goes far beyond protection.
It’s a persistent stereotype that goes back a hundred years that immigrants commit crimes.
And what the research shows is that there’s no evidence that immigrants are either more or less likely to commit crimes than anyone else in the population. The studies that claim to find that immigrants are somehow more law-abiding than Americans are based on very flawed data, because that doesn’t identify correctly necessarily what someone’s immigration status is.
immigrants are disproportionately unlikely to be in prison. The prison population doesn’t have a lot of immigrants in it. And when you look at crime rates and correlate them with immigration populations, immigrants are — cities with lots of immigrants don’t have lots of crime.
...some of them are committing crimes, and we need to have policies in place that ensure that they are being removed as quickly as possible, and that local jurisdictions are not allowed to obstruct immigration enforcement for political reasons, which leads inevitably to people who should be removed getting released back on to the streets. And this is something that Congress needs to address to crack down on sanctuary jurisdictions and make it clear that they’re expected to comply with immigration law and that they may be penalized if they don’t.
The Tsarnaev family were "vetted", a lot of good that did.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 7th, '16, 22:33
by steamboat1

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 08:35
by freeski
thedev wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
The refugees are not the problem, this country's laxed policies with gun control are what are killing innocent Americans. Without guns, what threat do they pose?
This reminds me, it seems like most people think any terrorist attack will end with another 4 to 15 deaths. Not true; wait until a few real ISIS guys hit a large event with explosives and automatic weapons and an organized plan to maximize casualties. To add perspective, what could 4 well armed Navy Seal level terrorists do at the World Series :?: We are at war.
The Dev you had a bad day on K-Zone yesterday. :shock:

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 09:08
by Woodsrider
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
Listen here moron, all of the veterans who died in all of the American wars died so that we can have the freedom you are crapping all over. So how many have to die? Are you willing to die for our freedom jackass? You are a bigot. You are a pussy because you are scared of something you simply don't understand. You are the worst kind of American; you have no patriotism.

Although I fully respect your freedom to spout sh*t out of your mouth all day long.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 09:09
by Sgt Eddy Brewers
Yeah the whole refugee concept is delusional. Are you people geographically challenged. Blind? Look at the European refugee situation.

Who is fleeing? MOSTLY fighting age males! Are they staying to try to protect their homes families and culture? Nope. I recognize that takes some true bravery but...why is it mostly people who could/should stay and fight?

Where are they coming from?
MANY/ MOST of the refugees coming to Europe are from a multitude of African countries that ARE NOT especially dangerous...just desperately poor sh!tholes that nobody wants to live in. I have sympathy those escaping actual WAR ZONES but....many are just escaping poverty.

Where are they fleeing to? It would make sense if Muslims in war zones fled to nearby Muslim countries where safe areas existed. There are quite a few painfully wealthy Muslim countries which border all the conflict zones. Saudi Arabia makes massive temporary shelters for the Haj every year. Capacity of millions every year (pretty sure). Why can't the suffering Muslim multitudes from Syria seek refuge in Saudi Arabia? Or stop in Turkey (also Islamic) Why do they keep heading north for hundreds of extra miles to flee ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES and try to settle in Sweden and Germany (etc)?

The answer to any honest human is painfully obvious....countries like Germany & Sweden are filled with kind hard-working (and delusionally PC) people who will open their doors and hand over their possessions to fellow humans who are suffering.

How's that European Refugee situation going Kzone progressives?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn62ovaAQKs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can hate the source but you can't deny the reality shown.

The kindest people in the world have been flooded with non-refugee males that will probably never assimilate into the culture of the countries they have invaded. European culture, which any sane human must admit, created the modern world in all its glory (not exclusively but in the vast majority) is being destroyed.

Where are we headed America?

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 09:55
by Woodsrider
Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:Yeah the whole refugee concept is delusional. Are you people geographically challenged. Blind? Look at the European refugee situation.

Who is fleeing? MOSTLY fighting age males! Are they staying to try to protect their homes families and culture? Nope. I recognize that takes some true bravery but...why is it mostly people who could/should stay and fight?

Where are they coming from?
MANY/ MOST of the refugees coming to Europe are from a multitude of African countries that ARE NOT especially dangerous...just desperately poor sh!tholes that nobody wants to live in. I have sympathy those escaping actual WAR ZONES but....many are just escaping poverty.

Where are they fleeing to? It would make sense if Muslims in war zones fled to nearby Muslim countries where safe areas existed. There are quite a few painfully wealthy Muslim countries which border all the conflict zones. Saudi Arabia makes massive temporary shelters for the Haj every year. Capacity of millions every year (pretty sure). Why can't the suffering Muslim multitudes from Syria seek refuge in Saudi Arabia? Or stop in Turkey (also Islamic) Why do they keep heading north for hundreds of extra miles to flee ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES and try to settle in Sweden and Germany (etc)?

The answer to any honest human is painfully obvious....countries like Germany & Sweden are filled with kind hard-working (and delusionally PC) people who will open their doors and hand over their possessions to fellow humans who are suffering.

How's that European Refugee situation going Kzone progressives?

The kindest people in the world have been flooded with non-refugee males that will probably never assimilate into the culture of the countries they have invaded. European culture, which any sane human must admit, created the modern world in all its glory (not exclusively but in the vast majority) is being destroyed.

Where are we headed America?
America is not Europe. Never will be. We do not nor ever will have the assimilation issue they have. Why? Because we are a country of immigrants. We welcome them and they want nothing more than to be American. Yes I am generalizing. But that is what matters. It is the bigotry itself that risks the assimilation.

Home grown terrorists are a far bigger issue.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 14:53
by SnoBrdr
Woodsrider wrote:
Sgt Eddy Brewers wrote:Yeah the whole refugee concept is delusional. Are you people geographically challenged. Blind? Look at the European refugee situation.

Who is fleeing? MOSTLY fighting age males! Are they staying to try to protect their homes families and culture? Nope. I recognize that takes some true bravery but...why is it mostly people who could/should stay and fight?

Where are they coming from?
MANY/ MOST of the refugees coming to Europe are from a multitude of African countries that ARE NOT especially dangerous...just desperately poor sh!tholes that nobody wants to live in. I have sympathy those escaping actual WAR ZONES but....many are just escaping poverty.

Where are they fleeing to? It would make sense if Muslims in war zones fled to nearby Muslim countries where safe areas existed. There are quite a few painfully wealthy Muslim countries which border all the conflict zones. Saudi Arabia makes massive temporary shelters for the Haj every year. Capacity of millions every year (pretty sure). Why can't the suffering Muslim multitudes from Syria seek refuge in Saudi Arabia? Or stop in Turkey (also Islamic) Why do they keep heading north for hundreds of extra miles to flee ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES and try to settle in Sweden and Germany (etc)?

The answer to any honest human is painfully obvious....countries like Germany & Sweden are filled with kind hard-working (and delusionally PC) people who will open their doors and hand over their possessions to fellow humans who are suffering.

How's that European Refugee situation going Kzone progressives?

The kindest people in the world have been flooded with non-refugee males that will probably never assimilate into the culture of the countries they have invaded. European culture, which any sane human must admit, created the modern world in all its glory (not exclusively but in the vast majority) is being destroyed.

Where are we headed America?
America is not Europe. Never will be. We do not nor ever will have the assimilation issue they have. Why? Because we are a country of immigrants. We welcome them and they want nothing more than to be American. Yes I am generalizing. But that is what matters. It is the bigotry itself that risks the assimilation.

Home grown terrorists are a far bigger issue.
Of this there is no doubt.

These arm chair Rambos always talk big.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 15:02
by f.a.s.t.
Woodsrider wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
Listen here moron, all of the veterans who died in all of the American wars died so that we can have the freedom you are crapping all over. So how many have to die? Are you willing to die for our freedom jackass? You are a bigot. You are a pussy because you are scared of something you simply don't understand. You are the worst kind of American; you have no patriotism.

Although I fully respect your freedom to spout sh*t out of your mouth all day long.
How indoctrinated and delusional can you get. Do you smoke pot or do drugs everyday, your brain is not functioning? If your embarrassed to be a member of this forum, why don't you leave? No one will miss you. Here is a sample that you don't have a problem with, NO MORE HURTING PEOPLE.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 15:10
by SnoBrdr
f.a.s.t. wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
Listen here moron, all of the veterans who died in all of the American wars died so that we can have the freedom you are crapping all over. So how many have to die? Are you willing to die for our freedom jackass? You are a bigot. You are a pussy because you are scared of something you simply don't understand. You are the worst kind of American; you have no patriotism.

Although I fully respect your freedom to spout sh*t out of your mouth all day long.
How indoctrinated and delusional can you get. Do you smoke pot or do drugs everyday, your brain is not functioning? If your embarrassed to be a member of this forum, why don't you leave? No one will miss you. Here is a sample that you don't have a problem with, NO MORE HURTING PEOPLE.
While two wrongs don't make a right.

YOUR family murdered hundreds of innocent women and children,

Maybe you should leave as it has already been determined that you are the embarrassment.

Re: Refugees coming to Rutland

Posted: Oct 8th, '16, 18:25
by Woodsrider
f.a.s.t. wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:
f.a.s.t. wrote:
thedev wrote:
Woodsrider wrote:I am embarrassed to be a member of this forum right now. You bigots should be ashamed.
Agreed
Let me ask the two of you (DHS) won't give us a number. How many Americans lives must be sacrificed before you would agree that we shouldn't let Muslim refugees into this country? One life, ten lives, 100 lives, 1,000 lives, 10,000 lives, 100,000 lives, a million. Give us a damn number. What is the cost in lives that is acceptable, the cost to make you feel good?
Listen here moron, all of the veterans who died in all of the American wars died so that we can have the freedom you are crapping all over. So how many have to die? Are you willing to die for our freedom jackass? You are a bigot. You are a pussy because you are scared of something you simply don't understand. You are the worst kind of American; you have no patriotism.

Although I fully respect your freedom to spout sh*t out of your mouth all day long.
How indoctrinated and delusional can you get. Do you smoke pot or do drugs everyday, your brain is not functioning? If your embarrassed to be a member of this forum, why don't you leave? No one will miss you. Here is a sample that you don't have a problem with, NO MORE HURTING PEOPLE.
I see. Just as long as you also don't have to help people. Loser. Go hide in a cave.