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Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 11th, '18, 17:45
by XtremeJibber2001
Kpdemello wrote:How do you know what most are doing? A couple of stories here or there doesn't come close to a comprehensive analysis of what is actually happening.
It's in the news ... what the big boys are doing ... Fortune 50.
Kpdemello wrote:I do tend to suspect that this tax cut isn't going to do much to spur business growth, but I'd like to see some actual studies of the real impact (and I'd love to be wrong). Unfortunately what we will have instead are people yelling at each other about how good/bad the tax cut was for everyone, and pointing to various indicators to make their largely illogical points.

Meanwhile, the budget is screwed for the next 10 years and us, our kids, and grandkids will pay the price down the road.
GWB, Obama, Trump ... killing us financially.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 11th, '18, 20:42
by Bubba
madhatter wrote:WalMart Raises Starting Wage To $11, Provides One-Time Bonus Following Trump Tax Reform
Meanwhile Sam's Club later in the day announces the closing of 10% of its stores.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 12th, '18, 07:15
by madhatter
Bubba wrote:
madhatter wrote:WalMart Raises Starting Wage To $11, Provides One-Time Bonus Following Trump Tax Reform
Meanwhile Sam's Club later in the day announces the closing of 10% of its stores.
Shortly after, the company issued a statement, stating that the number of stores for closure is somewhat lower, at 63, if still a sizable number. That compares with a total of five wholesale club stores the company has closed since fiscal 2013, securities filings show.

Ten to 12 of the closed stores could be converted to e-commerce facilities, the spokesperson said. The news is consistent with Sam's Club's ongoing plans to optimize its stores to fulfill more online orders and keep pace with internet retailers such as Boxed.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 12th, '18, 10:45
by Mister Moose
XtremeJibber2001 wrote:
madhatter wrote:WalMart Raises Starting Wage To $11, Provides One-Time Bonus Following Trump Tax Reform
I am pro-tax cuts, pro small gov't, etc. However, I struggle with how the corporation are using now excess capital. Most, at least so far, appear to be returning crumbs to their employees and massive stock buybacks to their investors. I'd be curious what results in more improvements for the economy .... the $1,000 one time bonus, $15,000 one time bonus (e.g., in lieu of Walmart's Q4 $20B stock buyback), or a stock buyback.
We didn't finish our prior discussion - but to summarize I think you are looking in the wrong place.

1) Is it really the majority of companies doing this, or just a few in the news?
2) What does it say when any company pays labor (essentially a commodity) a higher than market rate?
3) What does it say when companies place capital in places other than development, research, operations, or expansion?


I think what is good for the economy is

The number of people as a ratio to the total population that are in the work force. This is the most basic measurement of productivity.
The number of people as a ratio to the total population that are willing to work harder than 40 hours.
The number of people that are working hard that constantly think about innovation, making something better somehow, and are motivated to take action.
The number of people that build things vs consume things. IE it's better to build houses and highways than make candy bars.
Balanced trade, balanced budgets, and balanced tax rates when compared to our competition*. Or (gasp) better than that; tipped in our favor.
A tax system, education system, and media outlook that recognizes the importance, encourages and incentivizes the above.


So apply that to my questions.

For instance, I think paying labor higher than market wages is either a move to improve your labor force by attracting the best of the best, or in the case of a one time event that does not improve your labor force it is a PR move, just like cow power to power K1, or AT&T's announced $1,000 bonus.

I think there is a lot of looking in the wrong places when it comes to describing or improving the economy. Like blaming the wealthy.


*Competition can consist of other states, other countries, or simply choosing not to work or take risks because the tax/regulatory burden is too high.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 14th, '18, 08:44
by madhatter
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Fusion GPS ADMITS No INSIDE MOLE in Trump Campaign

gee no way? :roll:

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 14th, '18, 10:44
by Coydog

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 07:14
by madhatter
Coydog wrote:United States of America v. GEORGE PAPADOPOULOS, Defendant (PDF)

Nothing to see here.
correct

For instance, the Post reported that when Papadopoulos sent an an email about meeting with Russia to Paul Manafort, the new campaign chair, "Manafort reacted coolly, forwarding the email to his associate Rick Gates, with a note, ‘We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips.’"

Ultimately, no meeting occurred.


good luck w yer fantasy...

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 08:27
by Coydog
US Justice Department wrote: The government notes that the official forwarded defendant PAPADOPOULOS's email to another Campaign official (without including defendant PAPADOPOULOS) and stated: "Let[']s discuss. We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal."
A member of Gump's campaign, one of his foreign policy advisers, meets with a Russian connection about "dirt" on Clinton in the form of thousands of emails and then lies about it when questioned by the FBI. Kinda does sound like fantasy, but then so is the world of Gump.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 08:33
by madhatter
Coydog wrote:
US Justice Department wrote: The government notes that the official forwarded defendant PAPADOPOULOS's email to another Campaign official (without including defendant PAPADOPOULOS) and stated: "Let[']s discuss. We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal."
A member of Gump's campaign, one of his foreign policy advisers, meets with a Russian connection about "dirt" on Clinton in the form of thousands of emails and then lies about it when questioned by the FBI. Kinda does sound like fantasy, but then so is the world of Gump.
keep us posted :roll:

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 08:46
by Coydog
madhatter wrote:keep us posted :roll:
About collusion, obstruction of justice, money laundering, sexual misconduct, racist slurs or helping Democrats get elected in deep Red states? That's a lot to keep track of.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 08:58
by madhatter
Coydog wrote:
madhatter wrote:keep us posted :roll:
About collusion, obstruction of justice, money laundering, sexual misconduct, racist slurs or helping Democrats get elected in deep Red states? That's a lot to keep track of.
Hillaryous...

here's all you need to know...

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Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 09:13
by Coydog
Or just be patient and vote, he'll be gone soon enough.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 09:17
by madhatter
Coydog wrote:Or just be patient and vote, he'll be gone soon enough.
yep the next 7 years gonna fly right by...how old ya gonna be then? probably best not to waste those years pining away for hillary...

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 09:32
by Coydog
madhatter wrote:
Coydog wrote:Or just be patient and vote, he'll be gone soon enough.
yep the next 7 years gonna fly right by...how old ya gonna be then? probably best not to waste those years pining away for hillary...
Like 80% of Americans, I'll be busy trying to figure out how to best invest my tax cut.

Re: Trump Presidency

Posted: Jan 15th, '18, 09:39
by madhatter
Coydog wrote:
madhatter wrote:
Coydog wrote:Or just be patient and vote, he'll be gone soon enough.
yep the next 7 years gonna fly right by...how old ya gonna be then? probably best not to waste those years pining away for hillary...
Like 80% of Americans, I'll be busy trying to figure out how to best invest my tax cut.
employee bonuses? Cadillac HC plan for them? company ski trip to chamonix? donate it to apply to the national debt? charitable contribution to the madhatter ski fund? invest in creating the worlds largest returnable bottle collection? the possibilities are nearly endless thanks to our wonderful president... :banana: :banana: :banana: