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Kpdemello wrote:
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Kpdemello wrote:
madhatter wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanellis/ ... e360f47b9e

Democrats Release Tax Hike Plan
Interesting way to report that plan. Raising the top tax bracket to 39.6% just puts it back where it was before the Trump tax cut. The cuts to all the other brackets remain in place. The corporate tax raise just brings it to 25%, which is still down from the 35% rate that was in place before the Trump cut. So really the democrat plan is just a partial roll back of Trump's tax cuts that leaves most of the tax breaks in place.

Not surprising that Forbes reports it as a tax hike though because Forbes has their particular bias toward business/high net worth individuals.
Forbes reports it as a hike because it is a tax hike. You say it your self that taxes are raised.
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The Trump tax cuts haven't even gone into effect yet (well, I guess they have, for 3 months).

It's okay. You probably don't see the bias because you happen to agree with it. It'd be much more accurate to say, "Dems release tax plan to partially roll back Trump Tax Cuts" but that isn't as catchy and likely wouldn't sell as many magazines to Forbes wealthy clientele.
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That is objectively funny :lol:
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Why 17 Democrats voted with Republicans to ease bank rules

•Seventeen Senate Democrats voted with Republicans to ease regulations on some banks.
•Most of those Democrats face re-election this year, and seven are running in states Trump won.

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I'll take, because they are in the pocket of big business just like almost every other politician in both parties for $10,000, please!
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U.S. Capitol Police have arrested a Democrat staffer from the American Bridge political action committee (PAC) on Thursday for assaulting a female Interior Department communications official after a House budget hearing.
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.. so now a DNC staffer qualifies as a potential Democratic bench candidate in 2020 :roll:
That staffer would have been OK had he just 'grabbed her by the ... '

Will be very interesting to see who the Republicans come with in 2020.

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Bubba wrote:Why 17 Democrats voted with Republicans to ease bank rules
Kpdemello wrote:I'll take, because they are in the pocket of big business just like almost every other politician in both parties for $10,000, please!
So it has nothing to do with easing the over burden on smaller banks and credit unions that are struggling to stay in business against the mega banks and have an entirely different risk pool? That those Democrats might have understood that and needed to vote to actually benefit the community banks and their customers in States where they had close races? Do you want only just mega banks left on the field?

Press doesn't report it without slant, Kpdmellow et al eagerly believes it.
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Mister Moose wrote:Press doesn't report it without slant, Kpdmellow et al eagerly believes it.
Did you read the article? It didn't seem slanted to me and in fact made the very point you raise above.

I just happen to be cynical when it comes to politicians, like most Americans should be.
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Kpdemello wrote:
Mister Moose wrote:Press doesn't report it without slant, Kpdmellow et al eagerly believes it.
Did you read the article? It didn't seem slanted to me and in fact made the very point you raise above.

I just happen to be cynical when it comes to politicians, like most Americans should be.
OK, but it feels like you're making me point out the obvious. Yes, I read the article.
Seventeen Senate Democrats joined with every Republican in voting to roll back some bank rules.

Many of those Democrats did so as they push for political survival.

The Senate voted 67 to 31 on Wednesday to ease regulations on all but the largest banks, in what would become the biggest rewrite of financial laws since the Dodd-Frank reform act passed after the global financial crisis. The legislation would raise the level at which banks are considered "systemically important" and exempts smaller banks from other rules aiming to curb risky behavior.


Critics objected to a provision raising the threshold for an institution to be considered "too big to fail" to $250 billion in assets from $50 billion in assets, arguing it opens taxpayers up to more potential liability should a mid-sized institution fail. Under the bill, the entities below $250 billion in assets would no longer have to go through a "stress test" to prove they can survive a crisis. Some Democrats also criticized a provision related to mortgage data that they say will make it harder for the government to target discriminatory or predatory lenders.

It is unclear if the GOP-majority House will seek to pass the legislation or a more drastic rollback of bank rules that Senate Democrats would be reluctant to support.

The bank legislation left Democrats balancing competing concerns as they battle for control of Congress in November. Some members of the party have long argued smaller banks and lenders in rural areas should face fewer restrictions. Several Senate Democrats like Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota face re-election in November in states President Donald Trump won in 2016 and have tried to create an appearance of supporting bipartisan or moderate policies.

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On the other hand, progressive Senate Democrats like Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts warned against passing the bill, arguing it would apply to too many banks and damage efforts to protect consumers after the financial crisis. Ahead of November's midterms, Democrats want to cast themselves as better defenders of workers and consumers than Republicans.

Voting on the bill largely reflects the midterm political realities. The Democrats running in safer seats this year tended to oppose the bill, while the lawmakers in races that election handicappers consider close were more likely to back the plan.

Ten of the 17 Democrats who voted for the plan will run for re-election this year. Seven of them — Heitkamp, Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, Jon Tester of Montana, Joe Manchin of West Virginia, Debbie Stabenow of Michigan and Bill Nelson of Florida — face tough races in states Trump carried.

"You can't blame [Senate Minority Leader Chuck] Schumer for not wanting to twist the arms of red-state Democrats against home-state banking interests," former Schumer aide and Hillary Clinton advisor Brian Fallon told The Associated Press. "But from the standpoint of the larger party messaging, it's a missed opportunity to not strike a bright-line contrast on behalf of consumers."

Sens. Sherrod Brown of Ohio and Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, who also face re-election in states Trump won this year, notably opposed the bank plan. Both lawmakers appear to have an easier path to a November win than Democrats in more heavily Republican states like North Dakota.

The bill exposed fault lines among Democrats ahead of the midterms. In recent tweets, Warren hit her Democratic colleagues who supported the plan, saying it "wouldn't be on the path to becoming law" without her party.

Heitkamp told the AP "I came here to represent North Dakota, and that's exactly what I'm doing." She argued the bill "will make a huge difference for rural America."

Not just the vulnerable Democrats up for re-election this year backed the proposal. Sen. Doug Jones, who won a special election in deep-red Alabama last year, supported the bill. He will face another election in 2020.

Both senators who represent safe blue Delaware, Chris Coons and Tom Carper, backed the plan. The banking industry has a strong presence in the state.

Other Democratic senators not up for re-election but who represent swing states or want to be seen as moderate also voted for the bank proposal. Those lawmakers are Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Gary Peters of Michigan, Mark Warner of Virginia and Michael Bennet of Colorado.

Some of those lawmakers also participated in a bipartisan group seeking a solution to end a government shutdown earlier this year.

Heitkamp's justification for backing the bill suggests more Democrats in red areas may have to shrug off national Democrats in order to compete in red areas, as Conor Lamb did in a House special election in Pennsylvania this week.

"I think people in North Dakota don't care what Elizabeth Warren thinks," Heitkamp recently told The Atlantic.
In 61 lines, two are given to the idea that this legislation favors small banks so they can effectively compete against mega banks. The article doesn't give specifics on that, or expand on that, it only states that "some have argued". It only mentions "rural America" as if small banks everywhere else aren't struggling. That is my idea of slanted. 95%/5% is slanted. The rest of the article concentrates on whether Trump won the district, vs safe districts, blah blah blah. Not a single line discussing what the bill actually does, other than a few hand waving type general statements.

So yes, while you may be cynical of some things, you don't seem to be cynical of having your opinion manipulated by this article.
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Okay. I disagree. The article says literally nothing about Democrats being influenced by money from business interests being donated to their campaign, which is the only point that I made.

The article's discussion of democrats running in areas where Trump won suggests that it is voters in those states who will want this bill passed, not business interests. In short, I think this article completely accords with your views. I do agree that there's nothing in the article about the substance of the bill, which I chalk up to poor reporting, not bias.
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