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Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 10:50
by biged
A good discussion between Allison Stanger and Charles Murray.
http://www.middlebury.edu/newsroom/arch ... ode/545928
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 11:04
by freeski
This used to be studied a lot, butt some bad actors during WWII put an end to it. I don't think there is anything to be gained in the field. This was only a small part of Murray's work. Middlebury needs to keep the flakes out.
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 11:05
by Mister Moose
You need to add the 'L' back in the URL.
And an hour-15? Is there a cliff notes version?
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 15:06
by Bubba
The real issues are the protesters both shutting down the speaker's ability to talk openly but also, a select few physically assaulting the speaker and sponsor as they were leaving the campus. Those students (or others) need to be expelled and/or prosecuted for their actions.
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 15:53
by brownman
Yeah .. all those Stony Brook anti-war demonstrations were far more restrained
4 dead in Ohio
http://www.middlebury.edu/newsroom/arch ... ode/545978
Dartmouth demonstrations last year over campus sex issues were pretty bad as well.
Throw 'em all out. $60/k per student .. no problem.
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 17:15
by Bubba
brownman wrote:Yeah .. all those Stony Brook anti-war demonstrations were far more restrained
4 dead in Ohio
http://www.middlebury.edu/newsroom/arch ... ode/545978
Dartmouth demonstrations last year over campus sex issues were pretty bad as well.
Throw 'em all out. $60/k per student .. no problem.
The Stony Brook anti-war demonstrations were all peaceful except for a never determined cause of a fire that occurred the night of the Kent State massacre and took out an old, unused barn at the edge of the campus behind the quad that I was living in at the time. The only real violent demonstration I recall took place a couple of years earlier and was in response to a drug raid on campus by the Suffolk County police, the night before hearings in NYC on drug use on college campuses. It was clearly a political move by the powers that be to highlight the "problem" of drug use by students. That night, there was a much more violent protest that resulted in the burning of the main entrance gate house along with police cars being overturned and, if I recall correctly, torched as well. It's many years since and my memory of those events is more than a little "hazy".
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 18:24
by brownman
Roger that. To this day, I avoid the color purple.
We had some doozies up in Burlington, mostly war related.
Most raucous event was after a Mark Lane presentation at Flynn Theatre.
Civil disobedience sure has morphed. Erosion of any sense of respect.
I give my UNH senior a lot of credit for maintaining perspective these days.
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 8th, '17, 18:39
by freeski
While at UNH in the mid 80's the sorority girls would wear their sweatshirts inside out to protest...well I don't know what they were protesting. Butt, it was brutal; not sure how I survived.
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 9th, '17, 07:22
by madhatter
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... 0e4a8bd191" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The 40-year decline in the tolerance of college students, graphed
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 9th, '17, 08:42
by madhatter
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 9th, '17, 11:48
by XtremeJibber2001
Really hadn't heard much about this since I don't have cable ... after reading this
http://thefederalist.com/2017/03/07/mid ... ays-visit/ it sounds like a toxic environment at that college. Seems most the students didn't even know who Murray is and/or what they were there to protest.
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 9th, '17, 14:05
by brownman
Geraldine Ferraro's son blew Middlebury's cover long ago.
These days, mob mentality moves at bit speed.
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 14th, '17, 10:40
by Bubba
Schubart: Middlebury student mob and free speech
http://vermontbiz.com/news/march/schuba ... -286323177" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Smith: Turmoil at Middlebury
http://vermontbiz.com/news/march/smith- ... -286323177" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 14th, '17, 11:49
by freeski
Kids who caused injury need to be prosecuted; as well as the ones shaking the car. Anyone in the mob. They won't be though. I wonder what would happen to me if I attacked someone on campus
Re: Middlebury College Protest - Charles Murray
Posted: Mar 16th, '17, 16:35
by Bubba
Professor: ‘I feared for my life’ from overzealous mob
Mar. 14, 2017, 7:01 pm by Mark Johnson
https://vtdigger.org/2017/03/14/profess ... -286323177" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;