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officials are claiming the shooter used a bump stock...he had to be extremely proficient at it given the cadence of the shots...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-0 ... und-checks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

elsewhere evidence claiming a second shooter on the fourth floor was posted...no idea if its even legit...

ironically the information era is rife w disinformation and/or unverifiable information...

lot of carnage from just one guy at such a distance but I guess all he really hadda do was " chuck em out there" into the arena...

initial reports states the rifles were sold as semi-automatic and then modified to go full auto. With large magazines he could probably load 50 rounds at a time, fire full auto for short bursts change the magazine and start all over.

Dr. NO wrote:initial reports states the rifles were sold as semi-automatic and then modified to go full auto. With large magazines he could probably load 50 rounds at a time, fire full auto for short bursts change the magazine and start all over.

from what i read a sear mod would cause the entire mag to empty after the first shot, vs selective fire allowing to stop and start...I really don't know enough about all of that to say for sure...pretty sure a sear mod can be accomplished w a dremel tool quite easily whereas a selective fire mod requires "parts" that I would assume are not readily available to the public ( i could be wrong there too, and this guy apparently was wealthy and traveled a lot so he may have had the means to get them)

he had multiple weapons so that could explain away the tremendous heat build up of firing that many rounds thru a weapon in that amount of time...videos clearly indicate a LOT of rapid succession shots....those are rarely well placed, esp from where they were fired...again he was kinda just shooting " fish in a barrel" but still the number of hits is rather high statistically I would think...

we also do not know how many of the injured and killed were as a result of being it by a bullet vs trampling etc...

it's unrealistic that one guy particularly a non-military civilian w supposedly no training, hit even a couple hundred people in 4 minutes from 1200+ft from the 32nd floor of a building...so I assume that the majority of the injuries came from "other than hit by a bullet"...

madhatter wrote:it's unrealistic that one guy particularly a non-military civilian w supposedly no training, hit even a couple hundred people in 4 minutes from 1200+ft from the 32nd floor of a building...so I assume that the majority of the injuries came from "other than hit by a bullet"...

Putting my tinfoil hat on for a moment. Considering the influence Russian attempted to exert via Facebook ... is it beyond the pale to think Russia on an alternative state sponsor could fund/support these types of atrocities in the hope of destabilization? We (USA) have done similar things to other countries throughout history.

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:

madhatter wrote:it's unrealistic that one guy particularly a non-military civilian w supposedly no training, hit even a couple hundred people in 4 minutes from 1200+ft from the 32nd floor of a building...so I assume that the majority of the injuries came from "other than hit by a bullet"...

Putting my tinfoil hat on for a moment. Considering the influence Russian attempted to exert via Facebook ... is it beyond the pale to think Russia on an alternative state sponsor could fund/support these types of atrocities in the hope of destabilization? We (USA) have done similar things to other countries throughout history.

I think the real question is what ISN'T possible? the truth is out there, but how do you even know for sure if/when you come across it?

The guy was a f*** lunatic nothing more. The question is how did the Las Vegas eye in the sky miss this. As a person who visits LV a few time a year, we have always been told casino security is second to none on mgm properties. Obviously there is street crime in LV but this kind of sh*t should not happen given the amount of money being spent by the casinos on security. How did he get all of that sh*t upstairs with know one noticing?

Nikoli wrote:The guy was a f*** lunatic nothing more. The question is how did the Las Vegas eye in the sky miss this. As a person who visits LV a few time a year, we have always been told casino security is second to none on mgm properties. Obviously there is street crime in LV but this kind of sh*t should not happen given the amount of money being spent by the casinos on security. How did he get all of that sh*t upstairs with know one noticing?

cuz he's a lunatic and nothing more thus he has magical powers of invisibility and expert marksmanship among others...

nothing to see or question here...just yer run of the mill f*** lunatic who had a rather detailed plan, avoided security while bringing in thousands of dollars worth of guns, thousands of rounds of ammo to his 2 room suite overlooking the concert. He also had expert ability with a number of weapons rendering a very high hit rate in a short period of time under duress from an "other than usual" vantage point at a fairly long distance that would require a lot of practice to pull off...

this isn't just a lunatic who one day snapped...this took time to plan and skill to execute...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-0 ... to-emerges" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

lots more details coming out...nasty bloody suicide pic inside so be forewarned...said he used 10 suitcases to bring stuff in, videoed entire event, pic of possible suicide note on table etc inside...still no incidents of any thing on his record , he once sued a casino for a slip and fall, otherwise outside of his gambling nothing shows a red flag that may have indicated this was about to happen...

You know, there's waaaay more suspicion and conspiracy theorizing going on around this than in any recent event.

https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Highway Star wrote:You know, there's waaaay more suspicion and conspiracy theorizing going on around this than in any recent event.

https://www.infowars.com/receipt-shows- ... -shooting/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

there is, and much of it can be explained away, but some of it cannot...

why did he have so many guns w him? anyone who knows anything knows that full auto and semi auto;s firing at a high rate often jam or malfunction...they also generate a LOT of heat...you'd nee a belt feed or other HUGE magazine to sustain fire for an entire minute ( unrealistic) and that weapon would be so hot and deformed that it's accuracy would be seriously affected...

the 2 person meal receipt? easily could be default billing...e.g double occupancy room rate...

so many injuries in such a short time? the majority would almost have to be "other than hit by bullet" no way the guy landed close to 600 effective shots w a full auto or especially a bumpfire that by its very nature has the barrel moving all over the place...a small movement at the barrel would have a pronounced effect at 1200 + ft and at the angle from which his room overlooked the venue...

here's another long list w more lists in the commentary...

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02- ... ddock.html#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-0 ... ant-talk-a" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

agreed there are more Q's about this incident than many in the recent past, and seemingly for good reason...unfortunately none of us have any way of discerning reality from narrative with any sort of concrete outcome based on real evidence...

again the information age is also the disinformation age...or at least the conflicting information age...

still find it hard to believe on old man pulled all this off...maybe he was on meth?

/pol/ and T_D are having a field day with this overall, but even lay people I've talked to are far more suspicious than normal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/com ... g_paddock/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

.. are you saying that this aircraft may have been registered to Lee Harvey Oswald
Lots of theories emerging over this horror.
Hotel 'Do Not Distrurb' signage likely threatened.
Unregistered Latino chambermaids didn't report for fear of being deported

Looking forward to learning the identity of his dinner guest that nite ..

madhatter wrote:why did he have so many guns w him?

madhatter wrote:cuz he's a lunatic [..]

XtremeJibber2001 wrote:

madhatter wrote:why did he have so many guns w him?

madhatter wrote:cuz he's a lunatic [..]

that's the dimwitted take on it... I assume yer smarter than that...the shooter was no lunatic he knew very well what he was doing...to call him a lunatic excuses his behavior as outside his mental bounds or capacity to know better....again he knew very well what he was doing and had an elaborate plan to do it too...in any case thanks for the insight.. have you contacted the FBI and other law enforcement w this? they'll want to know...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-0 ... s-superman" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Las Vegas Sheriff: "You Got To Assume Shooter Had Help" As "Mystery Woman" Emerges

“Look at this. You look at the weapon obtaining the different amounts of tannerite available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own, face value?”

“You got to make the assumption he had to have help at some point, and we want to insure that’s the answer. Maybe he’s a super guy, super hero–not a hero, super–I won’t use the word. Maybe he’s super — that was working out this out on his own, but it will be hard for me to believe that.”

“Here’s the reason why, put one and one–two and two together, another residence in Reno with firearms, okay, electronics and everything else associated with larger amounts of ammo, a place in Mesquite, we know he had a girlfriend. Do you think this is all self-facing individual without talking to somebody, it was sequestered amongst himself. Come on focus folks these type of investigations have been occurring in the last few years and we have to investigate that.”

So to summarize - He had help, planned to escape (so was not a suicide mission), there is a female potential accomplice at large, and the FBI further confirmed that "no evidence at this point to say it was an act of [domestic] terrorism."