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Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 8th, '17, 16:24
by throbster
I'd like to see K start the march to the bottom and connect the glades from the top. It looks like Slokemo has two runs covered ttb already (granted it looks pretty thin). Upper East Fall should be open soon, but c'mon!

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 8th, '17, 16:32
by madhatter
throbster wrote:I'd like to see K start the march to the bottom and connect the glades from the top. It looks like Slokemo has two runs covered ttb already (granted it looks pretty thin). Upper East Fall should be open soon, but c'mon!
rumor is ---not this week...

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 8th, '17, 16:41
by DES
I was hoping to wait for TTB to use my free voucher, but I can't...just packed my Jeep for tomorrow.

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 8th, '17, 16:47
by snoloco
As I said before, there's zero chance with the World Cup going on. Hate to say it, but it does impact public skiing terrain and not in a good way. Public skiing is never the emphasis of the host resort in the weeks prior to a WC event. They will be blowing Superstar all weekend and only North Ridge will be open to the public until Superstar is finished. They aren't even blowing GN from the top to avoid both ways on the stairs. Highway Star is going to be right on this one. Next week looks ok for nighttime snowmaking, which will be used to finish up Superstar for snow control on the 18th. They still have to get Skyelark covered as a training run, although last year they went top to bottom at the same time that they were doing that. There may be top to bottom by the 18th depending on how early they finish Superstar and otherwise it will happen on the 22nd.

Okemo does not have a World Cup to host in 2 weeks and they can and they can focus 100% on public terrain. Killington will realize that you can't have both the most terrain open in the east in November and a World Cup race. That's about all there is to it. Highway Star will be right about this one.

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 8th, '17, 17:19
by madhatter
snoloco wrote:As I said before, there's zero chance with the World Cup going on. Hate to say it, but it does impact public skiing terrain and not in a good way. Public skiing is never the emphasis of the host resort in the weeks prior to a WC event. They will be blowing Superstar all weekend and only North Ridge will be open to the public until Superstar is finished. They aren't even blowing GN from the top to avoid both ways on the stairs. Highway Star is going to be right on this one. Next week looks ok for nighttime snowmaking, which will be used to finish up Superstar for snow control on the 18th. They still have to get Skyelark covered as a training run, although last year they went top to bottom at the same time that they were doing that. There may be top to bottom by the 18th depending on how early they finish Superstar and otherwise it will happen on the 22nd.

Okemo does not have a World Cup to host in 2 weeks and they can and they can focus 100% on public terrain. Killington will realize that you can't have both the most terrain open in the east in November and a World Cup race. That's about all there is to it. Highway Star will be right about this one.
has more to do with the expense to get all the way down and the warm up that is apparently coming next week...not sure how the skiing was at okemo today...and even this weekend it'll still be okemo...I ski 2-3 days before thanksgiving most years, if that...now may and june, that's a different story... how many trails okemo in may? rumors aren't always fact, but I'm pretty sure the source is fairly reliable...guns and hoses are laid out up top...

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 8th, '17, 18:34
by snoloco
Okemo wasn't open today.

If they start blowing top to bottom Thursday night they will probably have it for Sunday. They would've had to do it today if they were to have any hope of opening it on Saturday.

Next week isn't really supposed to be all that warm. I'm seeing highs in the lower 40's and lows somewhere in the 20's. Typical for this time of year. I guarantee if there wasn't a World Cup this year Killington would've been trying to get top to bottom by the weekend. Especially if other mountains were opening. It's just not going to be the priority this year, or any others where they have a World Cup Thanksgiving Weekend.

Having the guns staged there means nothing except that it will be the next terrain to be blown, which is the case every year.

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 8th, '17, 22:05
by spiderpig
snoloco wrote:Okemo wasn't open today.
That's the point.

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 07:35
by alanlw9
Why with four days of temps never going above freezing couldnyou not get top to bottom?

Why are they not even blowing the top of great northern to make the stairs only have one way traffic?

I understand the World Cup means something to some people, not the average customer. We’re sacrificing our mountain so people who are loyal to other mountains can come for the weekend and maybe spend a few dollars on an event that Killington runs at a loss.

Lowland mountains like mount snow will be top to bottom and the biggest resort in the east will be confined to the slowest “not really a triple” around. Let’s hope the power line doesn’t blow out again this year.

Seriously? Four days of optimal snowmaking and we won’t even have considered top to bottom.

Yikes!!!

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 08:14
by Highway Star
snoloco wrote:Okemo wasn't open today.

If they start blowing top to bottom Thursday night they will probably have it for Sunday. They would've had to do it today if they were to have any hope of opening it on Saturday.

Next week isn't really supposed to be all that warm. I'm seeing highs in the lower 40's and lows somewhere in the 20's. Typical for this time of year. I guarantee if there wasn't a World Cup this year Killington would've been trying to get top to bottom by the weekend. Especially if other mountains were opening. It's just not going to be the priority this year, or any others where they have a World Cup Thanksgiving Weekend.

Having the guns staged there means nothing except that it will be the next terrain to be blown, which is the case every year.
alanlw9 wrote:Why with four days of temps never going above freezing couldnyou not get top to bottom?

Why are they not even blowing the top of great northern to make the stairs only have one way traffic?

I understand the World Cup means something to some people, not the average customer. We’re sacrificing our mountain so people who are loyal to other mountains can come for the weekend and maybe spend a few dollars on an event that Killington runs at a loss.

Lowland mountains like mount snow will be top to bottom and the biggest resort in the east will be confined to the slowest “not really a triple” around. Let’s hope the power line doesn’t blow out again this year.

Seriously? Four days of optimal snowmaking and we won’t even have considered top to bottom.

Yikes!!!
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.ph ... 3989452921" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Forecast now shows a 50+ hour window of FULLY optimal snowmaking temps, under 20F wet bulb, from 5am Friday until 9am Sunday - AT THE BOTTOM OF RAMS HEAD. It's a real problem if they can't get open top to bottom. Killington can pump about 12,000 GPM and it's impossible to put all of it onto Superstar. How much will the K-1 top to bottom route get...???

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 10:02
by throbster
They just started the guns from the top

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 10:24
by boston_e
On the flip side, as soon as the World Cup is out of town, skylark and superstar should immediately be able to open.

I’d take that over the great northern / mouse trap / bunny buster f*** any day of the week.

I also almost never ski before thanksgiving... maybe a day at most.

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 10:26
by yiddle on da fiddle
"Top to Bottom"?...or , in HumptySpeak?...Bottom-to-Top......a/k/a......A T M. Figure it out........

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 10:26
by madhatter
boston_e wrote:On the flip side, as soon as the World Cup is out of town, skylark and superstar should immediately be able to open.

I’d take that over the great northern / mouse trap / bunny buster f*** any day of the week.

I also almost never ski before thanksgiving... maybe a day at most.
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Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 10:27
by Highway Star
Highway Star wrote:
snoloco wrote:Okemo wasn't open today.

If they start blowing top to bottom Thursday night they will probably have it for Sunday. They would've had to do it today if they were to have any hope of opening it on Saturday.

Next week isn't really supposed to be all that warm. I'm seeing highs in the lower 40's and lows somewhere in the 20's. Typical for this time of year. I guarantee if there wasn't a World Cup this year Killington would've been trying to get top to bottom by the weekend. Especially if other mountains were opening. It's just not going to be the priority this year, or any others where they have a World Cup Thanksgiving Weekend.

Having the guns staged there means nothing except that it will be the next terrain to be blown, which is the case every year.
alanlw9 wrote:Why with four days of temps never going above freezing couldnyou not get top to bottom?

Why are they not even blowing the top of great northern to make the stairs only have one way traffic?

I understand the World Cup means something to some people, not the average customer. We’re sacrificing our mountain so people who are loyal to other mountains can come for the weekend and maybe spend a few dollars on an event that Killington runs at a loss.

Lowland mountains like mount snow will be top to bottom and the biggest resort in the east will be confined to the slowest “not really a triple” around. Let’s hope the power line doesn’t blow out again this year.

Seriously? Four days of optimal snowmaking and we won’t even have considered top to bottom.

Yikes!!!
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.ph ... 3989452921" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Forecast now shows a 50+ hour window of FULLY optimal snowmaking temps, under 20F wet bulb, from 5am Friday until 9am Sunday - AT THE BOTTOM OF RAMS HEAD. It's a real problem if they can't get open top to bottom. Killington can pump about 12,000 GPM and it's impossible to put all of it onto Superstar. How much will the K-1 top to bottom route get...???

Just wanted to point out this forecast is for 2500ft at the BOTTOM OF RAMSHEAD.

Re: Top To Bottom

Posted: Nov 9th, '17, 10:32
by madhatter
Highway Star wrote:
Highway Star wrote:
snoloco wrote:Okemo wasn't open today.

If they start blowing top to bottom Thursday night they will probably have it for Sunday. They would've had to do it today if they were to have any hope of opening it on Saturday.

Next week isn't really supposed to be all that warm. I'm seeing highs in the lower 40's and lows somewhere in the 20's. Typical for this time of year. I guarantee if there wasn't a World Cup this year Killington would've been trying to get top to bottom by the weekend. Especially if other mountains were opening. It's just not going to be the priority this year, or any others where they have a World Cup Thanksgiving Weekend.

Having the guns staged there means nothing except that it will be the next terrain to be blown, which is the case every year.
alanlw9 wrote:Why with four days of temps never going above freezing couldnyou not get top to bottom?

Why are they not even blowing the top of great northern to make the stairs only have one way traffic?

I understand the World Cup means something to some people, not the average customer. We’re sacrificing our mountain so people who are loyal to other mountains can come for the weekend and maybe spend a few dollars on an event that Killington runs at a loss.

Lowland mountains like mount snow will be top to bottom and the biggest resort in the east will be confined to the slowest “not really a triple” around. Let’s hope the power line doesn’t blow out again this year.

Seriously? Four days of optimal snowmaking and we won’t even have considered top to bottom.

Yikes!!!
http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.ph ... 3989452921" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Forecast now shows a 50+ hour window of FULLY optimal snowmaking temps, under 20F wet bulb, from 5am Friday until 9am Sunday - AT THE BOTTOM OF RAMS HEAD. It's a real problem if they can't get open top to bottom. Killington can pump about 12,000 GPM and it's impossible to put all of it onto Superstar. How much will the K-1 top to bottom route get...???

Just wanted to point out this forecast is for 2500ft at the BOTTOM OF RAMSHEAD.

how much do you think that would cost?