No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 12:13
WTF!?
he Canyon Quad will not operate this weekend due to an issue with the auxillary drive. We hope to have it repaired shortly.
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Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 12:21
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 13:31
Thanks for the update.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 16:14
Another example of older infrastructure that missed the boat for maintenance, mainly preventive. Like running a car with a timing belt past 200,000 miles thinking that "it still runs OK why replace that belt - we will do it when we have to". Which means at the expense of the customer. It's been long enough since ASC left, POWDR can't blame them for not investing when all they use is crummy band aids themselves. Oh, but wait - the Snowdon Triple just got improved (with someone else's money). You know, that lift that hardly runs and will still be as slow as new.
Loved to see the lift tech on top of a K1 cabin with tools first thing this morning 8am. I know stuff happens and all that. It's just that stuff happens to Killington way more often than the competition.
Busy day today, and the message to the public was - "another lift broken down on a Saturday. Not enough capacity for the crowd that showed up." "That Snowdon quad kept on stopping, slowing, stopping". The Beast turned pussycat. Sure, plenty of lift availability at 2pm-4pm. Why should people come to K early season when they get holiday lift lines and poor trail access.
Unexpected benefit: Cascade was still skiing great in the afternoon, since it got limited use.
On the brighter side - cold weather will dominate for a while, expansion will take place and we will be excited to have new trails with a base that is not r*in soaked.
Loved to see the lift tech on top of a K1 cabin with tools first thing this morning 8am. I know stuff happens and all that. It's just that stuff happens to Killington way more often than the competition.
Busy day today, and the message to the public was - "another lift broken down on a Saturday. Not enough capacity for the crowd that showed up." "That Snowdon quad kept on stopping, slowing, stopping". The Beast turned pussycat. Sure, plenty of lift availability at 2pm-4pm. Why should people come to K early season when they get holiday lift lines and poor trail access.
Unexpected benefit: Cascade was still skiing great in the afternoon, since it got limited use.
On the brighter side - cold weather will dominate for a while, expansion will take place and we will be excited to have new trails with a base that is not r*in soaked.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 21:28
You guys thinking this is just a K problem kill me. Broken record with what we see at SR. Funny, both resorts have a ton of terrain and two massive Snowmaking systems and push that hard. Everything has to give somewhere. Sure Snow and Okemo make a bunch of snow too and upped their game there and with fancy new lifts. They still have a ton less terrain to deal with and maintain than K or SR. This is not a high margin business. The two south may make it seem like it but I guarantee Okemo is highly leveraged and Snow is riding EB-5 (which may seem like an endless stream but at the back end of that rainbow, it is anything from free). Mechanical things have issues from time to time. Nothing you can do about it. In Canyon's case, it is not the only lift serving that terrain. Be thankful for that.da Pimp wrote:
Loved to see the lift tech on top of a K1 cabin with tools first thing this morning 8am. I know stuff happens and all that. It's just that stuff happens to Killington way more often than the competition.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 21:59
Almost all failures can be predicted and prevented if you know what your looking for and/or care.machski wrote:You guys thinking this is just a K problem kill me. Broken record with what we see at SR. Funny, both resorts have a ton of terrain and two massive Snowmaking systems and push that hard. Everything has to give somewhere. Sure Snow and Okemo make a bunch of snow too and upped their game there and with fancy new lifts. They still have a ton less terrain to deal with and maintain than K or SR. This is not a high margin business. The two south may make it seem like it but I guarantee Okemo is highly leveraged and Snow is riding EB-5 (which may seem like an endless stream but at the back end of that rainbow, it is anything from free). Mechanical things have issues from time to time. Nothing you can do about it. In Canyon's case, it is not the only lift serving that terrain. Be thankful for that.da Pimp wrote:
Loved to see the lift tech on top of a K1 cabin with tools first thing this morning 8am. I know stuff happens and all that. It's just that stuff happens to Killington way more often than the competition.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 22:33
not having the canyon quad or the snowdon triple running on busy saturday was a major fu. no excuse for either. k has to to do better than that. the regulars have no choice but the weekend ticket peeps do and and their first impression won't be a good one. a great way to kill the world cup buzz. great job getting the terrain open but if you have to wait on long lift lines because lifts aren't running, it's meaningless.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 23:42
in addition, having a person who cannot count to 8 working at loading the gondola and letting gondolas go up with 3 or 4 people when the line was almost up the stairs makes for very unhappy customers. When I complained to him that he was not loading the gondolas properly, he told me I could use other lifts then. Someone with that attitude should not be working at that post.skiadikt wrote:not having the canyon quad or the snowdon triple running on busy saturday was a major fu. no excuse for either. k has to to do better than that. the regulars have no choice but the weekend ticket peeps do and and their first impression won't be a good one. a great way to kill the world cup buzz. great job getting the terrain open but if you have to wait on long lift lines because lifts aren't running, it's meaningless.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 9th, '17, 23:53
Or any other job at Killington.tyrolean_skier wrote:in addition, having a person who cannot count to 8 working at loading the gondola and letting gondolas go up with 3 or 4 people when the line was almost up the stairs makes for very unhappy customers. When I complained to him that he was not loading the gondolas properly, he told me I could use other lifts then. Someone with that attitude should not be working at that post.skiadikt wrote:not having the canyon quad or the snowdon triple running on busy saturday was a major fu. no excuse for either. k has to to do better than that. the regulars have no choice but the weekend ticket peeps do and and their first impression won't be a good one. a great way to kill the world cup buzz. great job getting the terrain open but if you have to wait on long lift lines because lifts aren't running, it's meaningless.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 10th, '17, 08:18
Gotta agree with most all of what's been said. A major FU on K's part not having more lifts running.
We skied in the afternoon, so were only inconvenienced for the first hour or so; we went to Superstar area where the line wasn't too bad.
I wonder how many others were looking at the Canyon quad lift on Friday [when it was not running] and thinking about how nice it was gonna be when it ran on Saturday. Especially after just opening up Cascade.
But wait, they could have run the Snowdon triple to ease some of the load. Oh that's right, I guess that lift's not ready to go either on a busy weekend in December.
WTF.
As Da Pimp said, for us second shifters, at least Cascade was skiing well in the afternoon helped out by low traffic on it due to the lift situation.
An embarassing day for the beast.
We skied in the afternoon, so were only inconvenienced for the first hour or so; we went to Superstar area where the line wasn't too bad.
I wonder how many others were looking at the Canyon quad lift on Friday [when it was not running] and thinking about how nice it was gonna be when it ran on Saturday. Especially after just opening up Cascade.
But wait, they could have run the Snowdon triple to ease some of the load. Oh that's right, I guess that lift's not ready to go either on a busy weekend in December.
WTF.
As Da Pimp said, for us second shifters, at least Cascade was skiing well in the afternoon helped out by low traffic on it due to the lift situation.
An embarassing day for the beast.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 10th, '17, 09:34
From today's conditions report:madhatter wrote:he Canyon Quad will not operate this weekend due to an issue with the auxillary drive. We hope to have it repaired shortly.
Despite our earlier reporting, the Canyon Quad auxiliary drive is repaired and the Canyon Quad has reopened.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 10th, '17, 09:37
this has been been confirmed on the snow...Bubba wrote:From today's conditions report:madhatter wrote:he Canyon Quad will not operate this weekend due to an issue with the auxillary drive. We hope to have it repaired shortly.
Despite our earlier reporting, the Canyon Quad auxiliary drive is repaired and the Canyon Quad has reopened.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 10th, '17, 15:10
great job getting it up & running quickly. place to be today. took pressure off the k1. a pretty chilly ride though.Bubba wrote:From today's conditions report:madhatter wrote:he Canyon Quad will not operate this weekend due to an issue with the auxillary drive. We hope to have it repaired shortly.
Despite our earlier reporting, the Canyon Quad auxiliary drive is repaired and the Canyon Quad has reopened.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 10th, '17, 18:49
From now on, Killington should report that it'll be 17 years before something is repaired. That way you'll be always be ecstatic when it's fixed.skiadikt wrote:great job getting it up & running quickly. place to be today. took pressure off the k1. a pretty chilly ride though.Bubba wrote:From today's conditions report:madhatter wrote:he Canyon Quad will not operate this weekend due to an issue with the auxillary drive. We hope to have it repaired shortly.
Despite our earlier reporting, the Canyon Quad auxiliary drive is repaired and the Canyon Quad has reopened.
Re: No Canyon Quad Today
Posted: Dec 11th, '17, 12:44
Perhaps, but at what cost to do so. Not every failure is pure mechanical, many are electric (switches, relays, converters, sensors just to name a few). Very hard to predict those. Even mechanical can be tough to predict. And in such a slim margin industry, you can try to understand the idea of wringing every last minute out of parts.Woodsrider wrote:Almost all failures can be predicted and prevented if you know what your looking for and/or care.machski wrote:You guys thinking this is just a K problem kill me. Broken record with what we see at SR. Funny, both resorts have a ton of terrain and two massive Snowmaking systems and push that hard. Everything has to give somewhere. Sure Snow and Okemo make a bunch of snow too and upped their game there and with fancy new lifts. They still have a ton less terrain to deal with and maintain than K or SR. This is not a high margin business. The two south may make it seem like it but I guarantee Okemo is highly leveraged and Snow is riding EB-5 (which may seem like an endless stream but at the back end of that rainbow, it is anything from free). Mechanical things have issues from time to time. Nothing you can do about it. In Canyon's case, it is not the only lift serving that terrain. Be thankful for that.da Pimp wrote:
Loved to see the lift tech on top of a K1 cabin with tools first thing this morning 8am. I know stuff happens and all that. It's just that stuff happens to Killington way more often than the competition.