DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
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question: can Trump declassify the memo? Does he have that authority?
Apparently according to this article, he does:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ything-an/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So why doesn't he declassify this memo? He tweeted that it should be declassified. So either he is too dumb to realize that he has the authority to do that himself, or declassification of this memo would not help his position. Am I missing something?
Apparently according to this article, he does:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ything-an/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So why doesn't he declassify this memo? He tweeted that it should be declassified. So either he is too dumb to realize that he has the authority to do that himself, or declassification of this memo would not help his position. Am I missing something?
Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
oop, apparently he might be working on it:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/politics ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm interested to see how it shakes out
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/23/politics ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm interested to see how it shakes out
Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
yeah yer missing a brain...Kpdemello wrote:question: can Trump declassify the memo? Does he have that authority?
Apparently according to this article, he does:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ything-an/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
So why doesn't he declassify this memo? He tweeted that it should be declassified. So either he is too dumb to realize that he has the authority to do that himself, or declassification of this memo would not help his position. Am I missing something?
your insistence that trump is some sort of barely functional idiot projects back on you...bigly...if you are incapable of distinguishing and separating your emotions from factual reality, you really aren't capable of serious conversation...
if you even read the article you'd see that while he does have that authority, a president normally delegates the "nuts and bolts" of the decision to someone with specific knowledge of the implications, though he does have the final say...
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
Yeah, you know it's pretty serious when the media goes from completely ignoring something to furiously denying it. But....Muh Russia!!!!Kpdemello wrote:Not vouching for the accuracy of anything in this article,
but here is a counter-point.
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
LOL so you agree that my take is correct, he does have the authority to declassify the memo, and yet I'm the idiot?madhatter wrote:yeah yer missing a brain...
your insistence that trump is some sort of barely functional idiot projects back on you...bigly...if you are incapable of distinguishing and separating your emotions from factual reality, you really aren't capable of serious conversation...
if you even read the article you'd see that while he does have that authority, a president normally delegates the "nuts and bolts" of the decision to someone with specific knowledge of the implications, though he does have the final say...
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
See? I told you I'm not a Russian bot.....
https://www.thedailybeast.com/source-tw ... via=mobile" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://www.thedailybeast.com/source-tw ... via=mobile" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What is real though is Twitter censoring trending hashtags that they don't like....The online groundswell urging the release of House Republicans’ attacks on the Federal Bureau of Investigation appears thus far to be organically American—not Russian propaganda, a source familiar with Twitter’s internal analysis told The Daily Beast.
#ReleaseTheMemo has been trending widely since late last week. It urges the House intelligence committee to release what its Republican authors claim is a finding of widespread FBI misconduct aimed at surveilling and discrediting Donald Trump. Democrats in Congress counter-accuse the Republicans of cobbling together a deceptive memo aimed at discrediting the FBI and Robert Mueller’s investigation of the Trump team over Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.
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"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
What cracks me up is that someone was using the "Worse than Watergate" tagline on 4chan about two weeks ago, and I didn't think it was catchy enough. Evidently I was wrong...I even heard it on NPR this morning:
https://twitter.com/SteveKingIA/status/ ... 7723443200" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;The source pointed to influential American users on the right, including Donald Trump Jr., with his 2.49 million followers, pushing the hashtag forward. It’s become a favorite of far-right Republican congressmen, including Steve King, who claimed the still-secret memo shows the FBI was behaving “worse than Watergate” in one viral tweet. Mark Meadows called it an “absolutely shocking” display of “FISA abuses,” referring to a counterintelligence process.
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"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
Is Bloomberg conservative or fake news? It's hard to keep track.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... fend-trump" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/ ... bes-364616" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... at-the-fbi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu ... at-the-fbi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
pretty much, your inability to glean the pertinent points of dialogue is unprecedented...it's almost as if you don't read it at all...Kpdemello wrote:LOL so you agree that my take is correct, he does have the authority to declassify the memo, and yet I'm the idiot?madhatter wrote:yeah yer missing a brain...
your insistence that trump is some sort of barely functional idiot projects back on you...bigly...if you are incapable of distinguishing and separating your emotions from factual reality, you really aren't capable of serious conversation...
if you even read the article you'd see that while he does have that authority, a president normally delegates the "nuts and bolts" of the decision to someone with specific knowledge of the implications, though he does have the final say...
of course he has the authority, nonetheless the normal procedure is that the president delegates the decision then signs off on it...He can bypass that process and sign off on anything he wants...
in almost EVERY case the president ( whoever it is at the time) is going to run any requests for declassification through the appropriate agencies and then review their decision...how do you not understand that?
oh wait I know why:
time and again your "logic" is that trump is a dope and incapable of anything but golfing, if that...and time and again your arguments are dismissed as result of the underlying "logic"...your insistence that trump is some sort of barely functional idiot projects back on you...bigly...if you are incapable of distinguishing and separating your emotions from factual reality, you really aren't capable of serious conversation...
if you want to be taken seriously in any way, you need to make serious posts that aren't based on emotion and preconceived bias...
failure to do so ensures that you have no valid input...
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
first word on the pageKpdemello wrote:Is Bloomberg conservative or fake news? It's hard to keep track.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... fend-trump" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
OPINION
so um not "news" at all...This column does not necessarily reflect the opinion of the editorial board or Bloomberg LP and its owners.
explains a lot about your " thought" process though....
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
So should we call it fake opinion?
Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
Show's how much you know... that's my conclusion not my logicmadhatter wrote:time and again your "logic" is that trump is a dope and incapable of anything but golfing
Almost every case... let me use my magical powers of contextual interpretation on this phrase... if I'm reading this right, and I think I am, Mr. Hat, that means that there are SOME cases when the President does not HAVE to run those requests by ANYONE.madhatter wrote:in almost EVERY case
Is that not correct?
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
This guy does a good job summing it up.....
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"Kzone should bill you for the bandwidth you waste writing novels to try and prove a point, but end up just looking like a deranged narcissistic fool." - Deadheadskier at madhatter
"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"I am one of the coolest people on the internet..." - Highway Star
"I have a tiny penis...." - C-Rex
XtremeJibber2001 - THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA HAS YOU COMPLETELY HYPNOTIZED. PLEASE WAKE UP AND LEARN HOW TO FILTER REALITY FROM BS NARRATIVES.
"Your life is only interesting when you capture the best, fakest, most curated split second version." - Team Robot regarding Instagram posters
"Kzone should bill you for the bandwidth you waste writing novels to try and prove a point, but end up just looking like a deranged narcissistic fool." - Deadheadskier at madhatter
"The key is to not be lame, and know it, and not give a rat's @$$ what anybody thinks......that's real cool." - Highway Star http://goo.gl/xJxo34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"I am one of the coolest people on the internet..." - Highway Star
"I have a tiny penis...." - C-Rex
XtremeJibber2001 - THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA HAS YOU COMPLETELY HYPNOTIZED. PLEASE WAKE UP AND LEARN HOW TO FILTER REALITY FROM BS NARRATIVES.
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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL
bah, fake opinion.