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Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 08:42
by Kpdemello
Huh. I just took a look at Comey's actual testimony. Turns out Zero Hedge lied. Comey was asked about one on one meetings, not a meeting with other people as the Rice email suggests:
Martin Heinrich – New Mexico:
Mr. Comey, prior to January 27th of this year, have you ever had a one on one meeting or a private dinner with a President of the United States?

James Comey:
No. Dinner, no, I had two one on ones with President Obama I laid out in my testimony, one to talk about law enforcement issues, law enforcement and race, an important topic throughout for me, and for the President, and then once very briefly for him to say good-bye.
http://time.com/4810345/james-comey-tes ... ranscript/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, see his written testimony:
http://documents.latimes.com/read-james ... nce-panel/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If I were you, I would definitely not trust Zero Hedge.

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 08:57
by Nikoli
Kpdemello wrote:
If I were you, I would definitely not trust Zero Hedge.
That site has zero credibility. It's not a news source. Run by people with Russian ties.

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 09:05
by madhatter
Kpdemello wrote:Huh. I just took a look at Comey's actual testimony. Turns out Zero Hedge lied. Comey was asked about one on one meetings, not a meeting with other people as the Rice email suggests:
Martin Heinrich – New Mexico:
Mr. Comey, prior to January 27th of this year, have you ever had a one on one meeting or a private dinner with a President of the United States?

James Comey:
No. Dinner, no, I had two one on ones with President Obama I laid out in my testimony, one to talk about law enforcement issues, law enforcement and race, an important topic throughout for me, and for the President, and then once very briefly for him to say good-bye.
http://time.com/4810345/james-comey-tes ... ranscript/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, see his written testimony:
http://documents.latimes.com/read-james ... nce-panel/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If I were you, I would definitely not trust Zero Hedge.
nice cherry pick

meanwhile in the real world:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vice Chairman Mark Warner – Virginia:
This was the only president that you felt like in every meeting you need today document because at some point, using your words, he might put out a non-truthful representation of that meeting?

James Comey:
That’s right, senator. And I — as I said in my written testimony. As FBI director I interacted with President Obama and spoke only twice in three years and didn’t document it. When I was deputy attorney general I had one one-on-one meeting with president bush about a national security matter. I didn’t document that conversation either. I didn’t feel with President Bush the need to document it in that way. Because of the combination of those factors, just wasn’t present with either President Bush or President Obama.
here's his opening statement...
I felt compelled to document my first conversation with the President-Elect in a memo. To ensure accuracy, I began to type it on a laptop in an FBI vehicle outside Trump Tower the moment I walked out of the meeting. Creating written records immediately after one-on-one conversations with Mr. Trump was my practice from that point forward. This had not been my practice in the past. I spoke alone with President Obama twice in person (and never on the phone) -- once in 2015 to discuss law enforcement policy issues and a second time, briefly, for him to say goodbye in late 2016. In neither of those circumstances did I memorialize the discussions. I can recall nine one-on-one conversations with President Trump in four months -- three in person and six on the phone.
it's not in response to any question as you imply above...

FYI ZH isn't the source it's the daily caller, if you actually read you'd know that...ZH compiles news stories and occasionally write opinion pieces but the vast majority is content shared from elsewhere...

thanks for playing...

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 10:06
by Kpdemello
Look, I think you're wrong, and he's still talking about one on one meetings based on the context, but even if you are right, so what? You still have Rice's word against Comey's word, and if you believe Rice, do you then also believe her when she says Obama wanted the investigation to be by the book? Because again, that completely contradicts your overall point.

And as to the source of the email, I know it's Daily Caller because I cited to the article above. Nothing in the Daily Caller article suggests or even hints that Comey lied to Congress. That came from the Zero Hedge article that came up when I googled your quoted text. Zero Hedge in fact is one of the few sources that is even claiming that Comey lied to congress. Nobody with any credibility is reporting that Comey lied.

I'm not sure why I'm even bothering. You're going to believe whatever you want regardless of the facts. But I do appreciate you bringing these things up because it forces me to look into things. I now know that sources like ZH have zero credibility, and more and more it appears that the FBI's investigation into Trump's Russia connections was being done by the book and Trump is the one making purely politically motivated attacks on the FBI because he doesn't like where it's going.

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 10:09
by madhatter
Kpdemello wrote:Look, I think you're wrong, and he's still talking about one on one meetings based on the context, but even if you are right, so what? You still have Rice's word against Comey's word, and if you believe Rice, do you then also believe her when she says Obama wanted the investigation to be by the book? Because again, that completely contradicts your overall point.

And as to the source of the email, I know it's Daily Caller because I cited to the article above. Nothing in the Daily Caller article suggests or even hints that Comey lied to Congress. That came from the Zero Hedge article that came up when I googled your quoted text. Zero Hedge in fact is one of the few sources that is even claiming that Comey lied to congress. Nobody with any credibility is reporting that Comey lied.

I'm not sure why I'm even bothering. You're going to believe whatever you want regardless of the facts. But I do appreciate you bringing these things up because it forces me to look into things. I now know that sources like ZH have zero credibility, and more and more it appears that the FBI's investigation into Trump's Russia connections was being done by the book and Trump is the one making purely politically motivated attacks on the FBI because he doesn't like where it's going.
keep up the reports from planet oblivia....

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 10:12
by Kpdemello
Nikoli wrote:That site has zero credibility. It's not a news source. Run by people with Russian ties.
Well that's interesting:
Dr. Craig Pirrong, professor at the Bauer College of Business writes that "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Looks like the fake news is coming from places like Zero hedge, not CNN, as Trump likes to claim. This site seems to be exactly what the intelligence community was trying warn us about. See here. Seriously, MH, I think you're being manipulated.

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 10:17
by madhatter
Kpdemello wrote:
Nikoli wrote:That site has zero credibility. It's not a news source. Run by people with Russian ties.
Well that's interesting:
Dr. Craig Pirrong, professor at the Bauer College of Business writes that "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedgeoh no not wikipedia....

Looks like the fake news is coming from places like Zero hedge, not CNN, as Trump likes to claim. This site seems to be exactly what the intelligence community was trying warn us about. See here. Seriously, MH, I think you're being manipulated.
think whatever ya want...the outcome of this will not be affected by it in any way....

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 14th, '18, 11:58
by Nikoli
madhatter wrote:
Kpdemello wrote:
Nikoli wrote:That site has zero credibility. It's not a news source. Run by people with Russian ties.
Well that's interesting:
Dr. Craig Pirrong, professor at the Bauer College of Business writes that "I have frequently written that Zero Hedge has the MO of a Soviet agitprop operation, that it reliably peddles Russian propaganda: my first post on this, almost exactly three years ago, noted the parallels between Zero Hedge and Russia Today."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedgeoh no not wikipedia....

Looks like the fake news is coming from places like Zero hedge, not CNN, as Trump likes to claim. This site seems to be exactly what the intelligence community was trying warn us about. See here. Seriously, MH, I think you're being manipulated.
think whatever ya want...the outcome of this will not be affected by it in any way....
You're caught in your own echo chamber. Maybe you should put all of this energy towards something that would matter in life. Your constant posting of drivile does nothing but feed your own ego.

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 16th, '18, 08:23
by Kpdemello
Sheesh... another guy going down.

Gates reported to be nearing a plea deal with Mueller's office.

https://www.10news.com/newsy/rick-gates ... llers-team" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Feb 16th, '18, 08:37
by madhatter
Kpdemello wrote:Sheesh... another guy going down.

Gates reported to be nearing a plea deal with Mueller's office.

https://www.10news.com/newsy/rick-gates ... llers-team" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
keep us posted... :roll:

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Apr 26th, '18, 16:01
by Highway Star
BUMP.

Has the smoking gun arrived.....?

https://saraacarter.com/recovered-fbi-s ... ted-today/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Apr 27th, '18, 08:42
by Highway Star
NOT AT ALL SUSPICIOUS.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... -included/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: Apr 28th, '18, 06:50
by madhatter
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04- ... r-congress" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here Are The "Missing" Strzok-Page Texts The DOJ Handed Over To Congress

once page is faced w life imprisonment and total financial ruin she'll be squealing...tick tock...

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: May 5th, '18, 08:35
by madhatter
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

FBI officials Lisa Page and James Baker resign

Re: DOJ-NSD FISA spying on Trump campaign...VERY BIG DEAL

Posted: May 5th, '18, 10:15
by XtremeJibber2001
madhatter wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/04/politics ... index.html

FBI officials Lisa Page and James Baker resign
Dropping like flies, just as they should