#oneless - most hysterical new antigun meme...

[deadheadskier]

So, this happened this weekend in my neck of the woods. Forget about the ARs in this article. I don't much care about the kind of gun. If you're responsible, the gun type really doesn't matter much.

However if you are not responsible then I don't care if you want to own a one shot musket from 1790. Sorry, you lose that right.

More than the kind of weapons it's aholes like this guy that need to be stripped of their right.

Quite the rap sheet to still be able to maintain his 2A right. This is a problem.


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[Nikoli]

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[deadheadskier]

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[madhatter]

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Florida lawmakers reject assault weapons ban, approve bill allowing teachers to carry guns

[Coydog]

Are there fire extinguishers in your house? Why? Why in the world would you want to stay in a burning house and risk death? Why not just run? The fire department will be there in just 4-10 minutes.... And the odds are you won't need it ever anyway.

If students in a school start yanking fire extinguishers off the wall and spray students in the face, an entire classroom of kids with chemicals in their eyes, are we going to start locking up fire extinguishers? Or eliminate readily available extinguishers in the hallways?

And yet even fire extinguishers are regulated by the state.

Relevance. Sidestep. We should be able to regulate firearms at least to the degree we regulate fire extinguishers, for production, deployment, application, service and safety.

As to your other comment, a semi-automatic rifle is a semi-automatic rifle. One trigger pull, one bullet.

and equipped with large capacity magazines, many, many bullets

It has been demonstrated that magazine size bears little relationship to "many, many bullets". With a little practice, the speed of a magazine change is very rapid. These active shooters practice and plan. You are (yet again) proposing an ineffective and inequitable solution. If this is the case, then law abiding gun owners will have little quarrel with limiting magazine sizes since they have such little impact on their shooting habits.

Put a bump stock on a semi-automatic rifle and you have an automatic rifle in all but name.

Who is against outlawing bump stocks? Another ineffective piece of feel good legislation, (They can be easily improvised) but fine, pass that bill. Good, one of Gump's proposals.

We have the best armed mass killers in the world but we still have the right to do something about it, 2nd Amendment notwithstanding.

There are far more better armed mass killers in the world. And there is far greater mass killing in this country than occurs in schools. (Chicago comes to mind. Really big on gun control.)

The US has about 5% of the world population, but we possess about 42% of privately held firearms. How are we rewarded? The US has the highest gun related homicide rate per million people of any industrialized nation, 29.7 compared to 7.7 for Switzerland, the second highest.

St Louis, a city with very lax gun laws, has the highest murder rate in the country. Of the top 25 cities with the highest violent crime rates, Chicago is number 24 with 60% of the guns used in crimes there coming from elsewhere, i.e. states with less stringent gun laws. Gun laws work, but we need to apply them across the board, not on a patch work basis.

More guns = more gun related deaths. Yes, it’s really that simple.

[Coydog]

Florida lawmakers reject assault weapons ban, approve bill allowing teachers to carry guns

Florida House declares porn a public health risk

[madhatter]

Are there fire extinguishers in your house? Why? Why in the world would you want to stay in a burning house and risk death? Why not just run? The fire department will be there in just 4-10 minutes.... And the odds are you won't need it ever anyway.

If students in a school start yanking fire extinguishers off the wall and spray students in the face, an entire classroom of kids with chemicals in their eyes, are we going to start locking up fire extinguishers? Or eliminate readily available extinguishers in the hallways?

And yet even fire extinguishers are regulated by the state.

Relevance. Sidestep. We should be able to regulate firearms at least to the degree we regulate fire extinguishers, for production, deployment, application, service and safety.

As to your other comment, a semi-automatic rifle is a semi-automatic rifle. One trigger pull, one bullet.

and equipped with large capacity magazines, many, many bullets

It has been demonstrated that magazine size bears little relationship to "many, many bullets". With a little practice, the speed of a magazine change is very rapid. These active shooters practice and plan. You are (yet again) proposing an ineffective and inequitable solution. If this is the case, then law abiding gun owners will have little quarrel with limiting magazine sizes since they have such little impact on their shooting habits.

Put a bump stock on a semi-automatic rifle and you have an automatic rifle in all but name.

Who is against outlawing bump stocks? Another ineffective piece of feel good legislation, (They can be easily improvised) but fine, pass that bill. Good, one of Gump's proposals.

We have the best armed mass killers in the world but we still have the right to do something about it, 2nd Amendment notwithstanding.

There are far more better armed mass killers in the world. And there is far greater mass killing in this country than occurs in schools. (Chicago comes to mind. Really big on gun control.)

The US has about 5% of the world population, but we possess about 42% of privately held firearms. How are we rewarded? The US has the highest gun related homicide rate per million people of any industrialized nation, 29.7 compared to 7.7 for Switzerland, the second highest.

St Louis, a city with very lax gun laws, has the highest murder rate in the country. Of the top 25 cities with the highest violent crime rates, Chicago is number 24 with 60% of the guns used in crimes there coming from elsewhere, i.e. states with less stringent gun laws. Gun laws work, but we need to apply them across the board, not on a patch work basis.

More guns = more gun related deaths. Yes, it’s really that simple.same with cars, and a zillion other things including life itself...the more lives the more deaths...

[Coydog]

The US has the highest number of motor vehicles and yet ranks 6th in total road fatalities.

[madhatter]

The US has the highest number of motor vehicles and yet ranks 6th in total road fatalities.

well ya know what they say there's statistics... and who gives a crap...
no means no...thought that was a big thing w you guys...

keep us posted though...

[madhatter]

[Mister Moose]

We should be able to regulate firearms at least to the degree we regulate fire extinguishers, for production, deployment, application, service and safety.

You don't understand the importance, meaning, relevance and level of support, or even the reason for the 2nd amendment.

If this is the case, then law abiding gun owners will have little quarrel with limiting magazine sizes since they have such little impact on their shooting habits.

Google the reason, I'm sure it's out there. I'm not a gun enthusiast, in spite of my support for the 2nd amendment.

[....Lots of statistics....] More guns = more gun related deaths. Yes, it’s really that simple.

Gosh. Imagine that. I suppose if there were zero guns, there would be zero gun deaths. You needed a graph for that? A far better question is how many assaults, robberies and murders were stopped with the use of a gun?

There are statistics from both sides. Your side frequently includes irrelevant numbers, like gun involved suicide. And what all your statistics leave out is the reason we have the 2nd amendment in the first place. (Hint: The founders knew guns [and other arms] were dangerous and lethal)

[madhatter]

We should be able to regulate firearms at least to the degree we regulate fire extinguishers, for production, deployment, application, service and safety.

You don't understand the importance, meaning, relevance and level of support, or even the reason for the 2nd amendment.

If this is the case, then law abiding gun owners will have little quarrel with limiting magazine sizes since they have such little impact on their shooting habits.

Google the reason, I'm sure it's out there. I'm not a gun enthusiast, in spite of my support for the 2nd amendment.

[....Lots of statistics....] More guns = more gun related deaths. Yes, it’s really that simple.

Gosh. Imagine that. I suppose if there were zero guns, there would be zero gun deaths. You needed a graph for that? A far better question is how many assaults, robberies and murders were stopped with the use of a gun?

There are statistics from both sides. Your side frequently includes irrelevant numbers, like gun involved suicide. And what all your statistics leave out is the reason we have the 2nd amendment in the first place. (Hint: The founders knew guns [and other arms] were dangerous and lethal)

i've also noticed that when the 2A was written it didn't say except puckle guns, cannons, mortars etc... it simply said " shall not be infringed"...

[Mister Moose]

I left out that the founders also knew there was gun crime and gun death in their community. They weighed both sides, and found in favor of individual freedom and liberty over government control. Those words have meaning.

Over the years I've heard frequent reference to the gun lobby, the NRA, and how if it wasn't for them we would have "Common sense gun legislation". As if the NRA was somehow disconnected from the voting public.

The reason the gun lobby and the NRA is so strong is because so many people buy guns and want the right to keep them.

[madhatter]

[Nikoli]

Where do you find this crap and why do you repost it here? It’s borderline childish