NSR: Peaceful protest scheduled this sunday 6/7 in Rutland

[madhatter]

Religion in this country is a choice. You can belong to whichever one you choose. You can worship whoever or whatever you want to and who are you to tell someone they can't?

If you learn more about Christianity, you can’t just call yourself a Christian and then you’re a Christian.

you'd think that works the same way with gender yet many disagree...but surely yer an authority on religion... we'll tell donald you've revoked his credentials...

[XtremeJibber2001]

Religion in this country is a choice. You can belong to whichever one you choose. You can worship whoever or whatever you want to and who are you to tell someone they can't?

If you learn more about Christianity, you can’t just call yourself a Christian and then you’re a Christian.

you'd think that works the same way with gender yet many disagree...but surely yer an authority on religion... we'll tell donald you've revoked his credentials...

By no means an expert, but the Bible speaks for itself.

[daytripper]

Religion in this country is a choice. You can belong to whichever one you choose. You can worship whoever or whatever you want to and who are you to tell someone they can't?

If you learn more about Christianity, you can’t just call yourself a Christian and then you’re a Christian.

If you learn more about the United States, if you call yourself a Christian, you are a Christian.

[f.a.s.t.]

Religion in this country is a choice. You can belong to whichever one you choose. You can worship whoever or whatever you want to and who are you to tell someone they can't?

If you learn more about Christianity, you can’t just call yourself a Christian and then you’re a Christian.

you'd think that works the same way with gender yet many disagree...but surely yer an authority on religion... we'll tell donald you've revoked his credentials...

By no means an expert, but the Bible speaks for itself.

You don't need a Bible to be a Christian, so your point is not valid and like you said; you're not an expert.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Religion in this country is a choice. You can belong to whichever one you choose. You can worship whoever or whatever you want to and who are you to tell someone they can't?

If you learn more about Christianity, you can’t just call yourself a Christian and then you’re a Christian.

If you learn more about the United States, if you call yourself a Christian, you are a Christian.

Well sure. That's kind of American culture isn't it? Can say you're a boy when you're a girl, too. Doesn't make it true.

Religion in this country is a choice. You can belong to whichever one you choose. You can worship whoever or whatever you want to and who are you to tell someone they can't?

If you learn more about Christianity, you can’t just call yourself a Christian and then you’re a Christian.

you'd think that works the same way with gender yet many disagree...but surely yer an authority on religion... we'll tell donald you've revoked his credentials...

By no means an expert, but the Bible speaks for itself.

You don't need a Bible to be a Christian, so your point is not valid and like you said; you're not an expert.

..... says who?

[Coydog]

If you learn more about the United States, if you call yourself a Christian, you are a Christian.

I'm sure POTUS is extremely pious, but as a former second rate reality TV personality, he knows all too well the value of perception.

Only 1 in 4 Americans see Donald Trump as a man of faith

As President Donald Trump leans on religion to reconnect with his political base ahead of the November election, most Americans dismiss the notion that he himself is a man of faith.

Only 27 percent of registered voters in a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll said they somewhat or strongly agree that Trump himself is religious, while 55 percent somewhat or strongly disagree. Among subgroups, just over a third of all Christians view the president as religious (50 percent do not), while 23 percent of Catholics and 18 percent of independents see him that way.

Evangelicals were more likely to view Trump as religious: 40 percent said they agreed that he is, while 33 percent disagreed.

Ideological conservatives and Republicans were the only demographics in which a majority of respondents characterized the president as religious — 55 percent and 60 percent, respectively.

...

It appears not many voters are buying his recent "man of faith" shtick accept perhaps his ardent supporters - gotta do what he tells you to do.

[madhatter]

If you learn more about the United States, if you call yourself a Christian, you are a Christian.

I'm sure POTUS is extremely pious, but as a former second rate reality TV personality, he knows all too well the value of perception.

Only 1 in 4 Americans see Donald Trump as a man of faith

As President Donald Trump leans on religion to reconnect with his political base ahead of the November election, most Americans dismiss the notion that he himself is a man of faith.

Only 27 percent of registered voters in a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll said they somewhat or strongly agree that Trump himself is religious, while 55 percent somewhat or strongly disagree. Among subgroups, just over a third of all Christians view the president as religious (50 percent do not), while 23 percent of Catholics and 18 percent of independents see him that way.

Evangelicals were more likely to view Trump as religious: 40 percent said they agreed that he is, while 33 percent disagreed.

Ideological conservatives and Republicans were the only demographics in which a majority of respondents characterized the president as religious — 55 percent and 60 percent, respectively.

...

It appears not many voters are buying his recent "man of faith" shtick accept perhaps his ardent supporters - gotta do what he tells you to do.

americans don't read politico...and leftists believe the letter "D" is god...

how 100% of the world see's trump

[ME2VTSkier]

Ja, exactly the same thing, except you're 40% more likely to die from covid-19 than get murdered in Chicago.

Honestly, I think that would depend on precisely exactly what spot in Chicago you were standing.

[daytripper]

If you learn more about the United States, if you call yourself a Christian, you are a Christian.

I'm sure POTUS is extremely pious, but as a former second rate reality TV personality, he knows all too well the value of perception.

Only 1 in 4 Americans see Donald Trump as a man of faith

As President Donald Trump leans on religion to reconnect with his political base ahead of the November election, most Americans dismiss the notion that he himself is a man of faith.

Only 27 percent of registered voters in a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll said they somewhat or strongly agree that Trump himself is religious, while 55 percent somewhat or strongly disagree. Among subgroups, just over a third of all Christians view the president as religious (50 percent do not), while 23 percent of Catholics and 18 percent of independents see him that way.

Evangelicals were more likely to view Trump as religious: 40 percent said they agreed that he is, while 33 percent disagreed.

Ideological conservatives and Republicans were the only demographics in which a majority of respondents characterized the president as religious — 55 percent and 60 percent, respectively.

...

It appears not many voters are buying his recent "man of faith" shtick accept perhaps his ardent supporters - gotta do what he tells you to do.

Whether he is a good Christian or not, or whatever his reasoning is, in this country you can be whatever religion you want to be so if he calls himself a Christian than he is a Christian.

[madhatter]

Ja, exactly the same thing, except you're 40% more likely to die from covid-19 than get murdered in Chicago. actually covid didn't exist then so the chance of dying from covid was zero...which is about only slightly more relevant than your argument on covid...

Honestly, I think that would depend on precisely exactly what spot in Chicago you were standing.

regardless it's a stupid argument...

yer far more likely to get murdered for no reason whatsoever in chicago than you are to be killed by a cop (for whatever reason) in the entire country...

but those black lives don't matter cuz there's no political hay to be made from them...

same as the 20 ( at least some of whom were black) or so lives lost as a direct result of the rioting...they also do not matter, and for the same reason...there's no political hay to be made...

same tired D argument since the 60's, yet every D city is still infested with all the ills they claim to be " solving"...crime, drugs, poverty, corrupt politicians, abusive police high taxes, blight etc... the bluer it gets the worse it gets...

but the worst thing of all is that the liberal loons who can afford it will make a mass exodus from their utopian cities gone wrong only to immediately attempt to recreate their imaginary shangri la wherever they land...

[Coydog]

Whether he is a good Christian or not, or whatever his reasoning is, in this country you can be whatever religion you want to be so if he calls himself a Christian than he is a Christian.

Sure, he can call himself a Christian, but few voters believe him.

[Coydog]

Ja, exactly the same thing, except you're 40% more likely to die from covid-19 than get murdered in Chicago.

Honestly, I think that would depend on precisely exactly what spot in Chicago you were standing.

Same for covid-19.

[Coydog]

yer far more likely to get murdered for no reason whatsoever in chicago than you are to be killed by a cop (for whatever reason) in the entire country...

but those black lives don't matter cuz there's no political hay to be made from them...

Getting murdered by the police, who we pay to protect us, is the issue here - "deep state conspiracy against Gump" types should be able to understand to that.

[madhatter]

yer far more likely to get murdered for no reason whatsoever in chicago than you are to be killed by a cop (for whatever reason) in the entire country...

but those black lives don't matter cuz there's no political hay to be made from them...

Getting murdered by the police, who we pay to protect us, is the issue here - "deep state conspiracy against Gump" types should be able to understand to that.

wait I thought it was racist cops? so if we are talking about cops "murdering" citizens that happens very rarely....

so to recap there is less chance of being killed by a cop for any reason anywhere in the US than being murdered in just chicago ( we wont even include baltimore, st louis and the rest of blue utopia)

even less chance of being "murdered" by a cop...even less still if you are black... ( 9 last year) still lower if you don't resist arrest and even lower still if you don't do anything to get arrested in the first place...

meanwhile cops are murdered at a far higher rate while doing their jobs...though not quite as high as murders for no reason at all in chicago...

[img]In the last 50 weeks, 38 officers have been shot to death in the line of duty
By Ryan Prior, Scottie Andrew and Paul Martucci, CNN

Updated 9:13 AM ET, Wed December 11, 2019[/img]

here's a picture and story about every one of them...

zero protests, zero riots, zero outrage...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/07/us/2019- ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Coydog]

Protest whatever or whoever you want, but a cop getting killed in the line of duty is a tragic occupational risk. Bad guys kill cops, we all know this. But when bad cops murder citizens, it's a complete breakdown of the social contract. Add in racism, especially institutional racism, and it only gets worse. When the social contract breaks down, all bets are off. Why obey the rules, when the government doesn't?