2020 Election

[XtremeJibber2001]

He needs to be taken down for Georgia is what needs to happen.

Even if he's convicted, it will not prevent him from becoming POTUS. This ship has sailed.

[easyrider16]

He's leading Biden in the polls and the victory margin in swing states was very thin for Biden.

He needs to be taken down for Georgia is what needs to happen.

Even if they indict him today, they won't be able to take him to trial before Nov 2024. His lawyers will be able to delay for at least that long, but probably longer. And the reality is he won't be indicted for weeks at the least.

What we may end up with, if Trump wins in 2024, is the historic first of a U.S. President fighting an indictment for, ironically, election fraud. It's a nightmare scenario fraught with constitutional crisis, but his supporters don't care about any of that.

[G-smashed]

The liar in chief will lose in 2024 by 10 million votes and then lead an army of nazis, white supremacists, militias, and other human garbage in a bigger attack on the capital. The insurrection will be lead by Fancypants and Throbster.

[XtremeJibber2001]

https://justthenews.com/government/fede ... paign=trjs

"What prosecutor, in two straight trials, presents witnesses who essentially blow up his own case?" asked Kevin Brock, retired FBI chief of intelligence. "Answer: a prosecutor who cares more about getting the truth out than notching convictions."

"John Durham used the Sussmann and Danchenko trials to expose the malfeasance of a misbegotten Crossfire Hurricane team," he said, using the code name for the FBI's pursuit of now-debunked allegations of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia to sway the outcome of the 2016 election. "Sussmann and Danchenko clearly lied, but two juries, probably correctly, could not hold them guilty and subject to punishment in the face of Durham's continued exposure of the duplicity of the Crossfire Hurricane plotters who remain unpunished.

"I have a sad sense that John Durham's final report will be even more damning than what he has laid bare through these trials."

Not only are there no charges in the Durham Report for the opening of the Russia Probe, there aren’t any recommendations for what the FBI could do differently.

Durham report on Trump-Russia investigation
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... stigation/

[XtremeJibber2001]

It's almost always projection ...

Texas AG Says Trump Would've 'Lost' State If It Hadn't Blocked Mail-in Ballots Applications Being Sent Out
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-ag-says- ... ng-1597909

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, a Republican, said former President Donald Trump would have lost in Texas in the 2020 election if his office had not successfully blocked counties from mailing out applications for mail-in ballots to all registered voters.

Harris County, home to the city of Houston, wanted to mail out applications for mail-in ballots to its approximately 2.4 million registered voters due to the COVID-19 pandemic. However, the conservative Texas Supreme Court blocked the county from doing so after it faced litigation from Paxton's office.

"If we'd lost Harris County—Trump won by 620,000 votes in Texas. Harris County mail-in ballots that they wanted to send out were 2.5 million, those were all illegal and we were able to stop every one of them," Paxton told former Trump adviser Steve Bannon during the latter's War Room podcast on Friday.

"Had we not done that, we would have been in the very same situation—we would've been on Election Day, I was watching on election night and I knew, when I saw what was happening in these other states, that that would've been Texas. We would've been in the same boat. We would've been one of those battleground states that they were counting votes in Harris County for three days and Donald Trump would've lost the election," the Republican official said.

[XtremeJibber2001]

No way ... who could have seen it coming ... unfortunately these criminal cases may be too late.

Georgia probe of Trump broadens to activities in other states
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... on-county/

An Atlanta-area investigation of alleged election interference by former president Donald Trump and his allies has broadened to include activities in Washington, D.C., and several other states, according to two people with knowledge of the probe — a fresh sign that prosecutors may be building a sprawling case under Georgia’s racketeering laws.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani T. Willis (D) launched an investigation more than two years ago to examine efforts by Trump and his allies to overturn his narrow 2020 defeat in Georgia. Along the way, she has signaled publicly that she may use Georgia’s Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) statute to allege that these efforts amounted to a far-reaching criminal scheme.

In recent days, Willis has sought information related to the Trump campaign hiring two firms to find voter fraud across the United States and then burying their findings when they did not find it, allegations that reach beyond Georgia’s borders, said the two individuals, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the investigation. At least one of the firms has been subpoenaed by Fulton County investigators.

Willis’s investigation is separate from the one at the Department of Justice being led by special counsel Jack Smith, but the two probes have covered some of the same ground. Willis has said she plans to make a charging decision this summer, and she has indicated that such an announcement could come in early August. She has faced stiff criticism from Republicans for investigating the former president, and the ever-widening scope suggests just how ambitious her plans may be.

The state’s RICO statute is among the most expansive in the nation, allowing prosecutors to build racketeering cases around violations of both state and federal laws — and even activities in other states. If Willis does allege a multistate racketeering scheme with Trump at its center, the case could test the bounds of the controversial law and make history in the process. The statute calls for penalties of up to 20 years in prison.

“Georgia’s RICO statute is basically two specified criminal acts that have to be part of a pattern of behavior done with the same intent or to achieve a common result or that have distinguishing characteristics,” said John Malcolm, a former Atlanta-based federal prosecutor who is now a constitutional scholar at the conservative Heritage Foundation. “That’s it. It’s very broad. That doesn’t mean it’s appropriate to charge a former president, but that also doesn’t mean she can’t do it or won’t do it.”

Among Willis’s latest areas of scrutiny is the Trump campaign’s expenditure of more than $1 million on two firms to study whether electoral fraud occurred in the 2020 election, the two individuals said. The Post first reported earlier this year that the work was carried out in the final weeks of 2020, and the campaign never released the findings because the firms, Simpatico Software Systems and Berkeley Research Group, disputed many of Trump’s theories and could not offer any proof that he was the rightful winner of the election.

[easyrider16]

I am pretty jaded about this stuff. I think the evidence is very clear that even if Trump did not commit any crimes, he totally lied about election fraud, and in doing so he undermined confidence in our right to vote. GOP voters, by now, have to know this. Yet most of them don't seem to care. They care more about owning the libs than about the integrity of our democracy.

It would not bother me so much if this group was a small minority. But they make up like 30-40% of the electorate. That is scary. This strikes me as an ominous sign for the future.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Giuliani concedes he made defamatory statements about Georgia election workers
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/politics ... index.html

[XtremeJibber2001]

More fraud ...

‘I have been indicted,’ says suspect in Michigan vote machine tampering probe
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-gover ... ring-probe

[XtremeJibber2001]

Pretty clear what the GOP's plan was ...


Document in its entirety: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/ ... 1/full.pdf

[XtremeJibber2001]

More election fraud.

Giuliani’s fall is the most incredible … pioneered the use of RICO to fight the mob, becomes America’s mayor, last night he’s indicted under RICO.

Trump Indicted in Georgia Over Effort to Overturn Election Results

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-tru ... 61?mod=mhp

[deadheadskier]

Yep. Rudy's ego and alcoholic wet brain destroyed what could have been a great American legacy.

Every single one of these jerks in Trump's orbit plus Trump himself should be locked up for a long time and serve as a reminder for people to

A. Never even think about conspiring to defraud the American people

&

B. Never elect an inexperienced, morally bankrupt, carnival barker again.

Screw every single one of you Trump voters. You are all complicit in this disgraceful moment in American history happening. We warned you over and over that Trump wasn't fit for office. You just had to pull the lever for team red anyway. Every one of you should admit to your mistake and apologize for it.

[Bubba]

Screw every single one of you Trump voters. You are all complicit in this disgraceful moment in American history happening. We warned you over and over that Trump wasn't fit for office. You just had to pull the lever for team red anyway. Every one of you should admit to your mistake and apologize for it.

But, the stock market….

[Heywood jablowmee]

…. I’ve accomplished more in47 months that you’ve done in 47 years..,…

[deadheadskier]

Ahh yes, the Stock Market. The one Trump took credit for constantly (except for the 2020 crash) and swore would tank if Biden became President?

2.5 years in and we are still waiting for the Biden crash and recession.

Will Trump supporters admit they were wrong about that too?