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Re: Biden Presidency
*shrug* your guy lost and his party lost. Keep up the crazy kook act and your leaders will likely never hold office again. Thanks for being such a nut.
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Biden didn’t win. China woneasyrider16 wrote: ↑Jan 12th, '21, 07:33 *shrug* your guy lost and his party lost. Keep up the crazy kook act and your leaders will likely never hold office again. Thanks for being such a nut.
Re: Biden Presidency
I can see the writing on the wall if Grandpa Bedamed gets in. They are going to come for our zip ties. Then duct tape. You'll have to go back to framing with a hammer. A cordless nailer is a weapon of war. You better comply and take the forced fake vaccine. It's going to be wonderful.
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Re: Biden Presidency
Finally.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/01/15/bid ... ssion=true
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/01/15/bid ... ssion=true
Biden to deploy FEMA, National Guard to set up Covid vaccine clinics across the U.S.
Re: Biden Presidency
Oh great! I can't wait for a forced fake vaccine. Will they come door to door? You can always trust FEMA and the weekend warriors.XtremeJibber2001 wrote: ↑Jan 15th, '21, 20:17 Finally.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/01/15/bid ... ssion=true
Biden to deploy FEMA, National Guard to set up Covid vaccine clinics across the U.S.
So when I'm injected with it will I have to pray to AOC every night? Buy a lezbaru or prius? Will the chip go off in airports before we are all barcoded.
F- all that!!! Wolverines!! Live Free or Die! Come get it grandpa. F the B man!
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Re: Biden Presidency
So Jibber. Let me pose this to you? Do you always buy the first model year of a new car? Any issues with it?
I find it highly suspect that "they" can develop a covid vaccine in a such a short period. No cure for the common cold. No cure for cancer. No cure for Aids. No cure for the murder rate in Chicago. Even with strict gun regulations. Grandpa Joe wins the election. I see a pattern here. Agenda 21. The digital reset is coming. I'm not getting chipped. The vaccine changes your DNA. For the record I was never an anti vax person prior to this. This is part of a much larger agenda to control and manipulate the population.
Tin foil hat guy out.
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You didn’t answer my question. Where did you read it’s a forced fake vaccine? Where did you read it’s chipped? Where did you read it changes your DNA?ANGUS wrote: ↑Jan 17th, '21, 19:00So Jibber. Let me pose this to you? Do you always buy the first model year of a new car? Any issues with it?
I find it highly suspect that "they" can develop a covid vaccine in a such a short period. No cure for the common cold. No cure for cancer. No cure for Aids. No cure for the murder rate in Chicago. Even with strict gun regulations. Grandpa Joe wins the election. I see a pattern here. Agenda 21. The digital reset is coming. I'm not getting chipped. The vaccine changes your DNA. For the record I was never an anti vax person prior to this. This is part of a much larger agenda to control and manipulate the population.
Tin foil hat guy out.
Say you’re right. Say this is to control and manipulate the population. Who are the stakeholders? What’s their value proposition? How are they keeping global govts, independent scientists, and global biotechs lockstep?
I think these types of comments, made without merit, are dangerous and could persuade someone to avoid a vaccine that could save their life.
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His comments are pure idiocy. He knows nothing about the science of modern day vaccine development.XtremeJibber2001 wrote: ↑Jan 17th, '21, 20:27You didn’t answer my question. Where did you read it’s a forced fake vaccine? Where did you read it’s chipped? Where did you read it changes your DNA?ANGUS wrote: ↑Jan 17th, '21, 19:00So Jibber. Let me pose this to you? Do you always buy the first model year of a new car? Any issues with it?
I find it highly suspect that "they" can develop a covid vaccine in a such a short period. No cure for the common cold. No cure for cancer. No cure for Aids. No cure for the murder rate in Chicago. Even with strict gun regulations. Grandpa Joe wins the election. I see a pattern here. Agenda 21. The digital reset is coming. I'm not getting chipped. The vaccine changes your DNA. For the record I was never an anti vax person prior to this. This is part of a much larger agenda to control and manipulate the population.
Tin foil hat guy out.
Say you’re right. Say this is to control and manipulate the population. Who are the stakeholders? What’s their value proposition? How are they keeping global govts, independent scientists, and global biotechs lockstep?
I think these types of comments, made without merit, are dangerous and could persuade someone to avoid a vaccine that could save their life.
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Re: Biden Presidency
Jibber. You have no idea what agenda 21 is ? Like most of the left sheeple. No disrespect to you. Have you ever seen a dog chipped? Its a simple injection. Maybe start by reading. I recommend this. Behold a Pale Horse: Exposing the New World Order by William Cooper. Then perhaps move on to history. Get to know Thomas Paine's work. The UN is a joke. Antifa started the D.C. garbage on 1/6. Its called a false flag. Be skeptical. Do your own research. I've done mine. I'll survive what is to come. Enjoy freedom until 1/20/21. Have a good evening sir.XtremeJibber2001 wrote: ↑Jan 17th, '21, 20:27You didn’t answer my question. Where did you read it’s a forced fake vaccine? Where did you read it’s chipped? Where did you read it changes your DNA?ANGUS wrote: ↑Jan 17th, '21, 19:00So Jibber. Let me pose this to you? Do you always buy the first model year of a new car? Any issues with it?
I find it highly suspect that "they" can develop a covid vaccine in a such a short period. No cure for the common cold. No cure for cancer. No cure for Aids. No cure for the murder rate in Chicago. Even with strict gun regulations. Grandpa Joe wins the election. I see a pattern here. Agenda 21. The digital reset is coming. I'm not getting chipped. The vaccine changes your DNA. For the record I was never an anti vax person prior to this. This is part of a much larger agenda to control and manipulate the population.
Tin foil hat guy out.
Say you’re right. Say this is to control and manipulate the population. Who are the stakeholders? What’s their value proposition? How are they keeping global govts, independent scientists, and global biotechs lockstep?
I think these types of comments, made without merit, are dangerous and could persuade someone to avoid a vaccine that could save their life.
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Re: Biden Presidency
Walk me through how this happens with humans. A nurse uses the plunger to fill the barrel of a syringe from a vial. Who’s adding the chip? How does the doctors office get the chips?
In chipping dogs the needle shaft of the syringe is much larger than a vaccine. Are doctor offices ordering these for chip insertion? Or is the chip small enough to fit through a standard shaft?
Re: Biden Presidency
So says the guy (Angry Angus) who probably posted from his phone... the most obvious “chip”.
Have “they” proven cell phones don’t alter your DNA?
Talk about sheeple.
Have “they” proven cell phones don’t alter your DNA?
Talk about sheeple.
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By David Leonhardt (NY Times news summary e-mail)
Good morning. We explain why the vaccine news is better than you may think.
‘We’re underselling the vaccine’
Early in the pandemic, many health experts — in the U.S. and around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.
Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.
But the message was still a mistake.
It confused people. (If masks weren’t effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.
“When people feel as though they may not be getting the full truth from the authorities, snake-oil sellers and price gougers have an easier time,” the sociologist Zeynep Tufekci wrote early last year.
Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don’t seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.
This issue is important and complex enough that I’m going to make today’s newsletter a bit longer than usual. If you still have questions, don’t hesitate to email me at themorning@nytimes.com.
‘Ridiculously encouraging’
Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They’re not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn’t change their behavior once they get their shots.
These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it’s true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.
“It’s driving me a little bit crazy,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.
“We’re underselling the vaccine,” Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.
“It’s going to save your life — that’s where the emphasis has to be right now,” Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are “essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease,” Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said. “It’s ridiculously encouraging.”
The details
Here’s my best attempt at summarizing what we know:
• The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines — the only two approved in the U.S. — are among the best vaccines ever created, with effectiveness rates of about 95 percent after two doses. That’s on par with the vaccines for chickenpox and measles. And a vaccine doesn’t even need to be so effective to reduce cases sharply and crush a pandemic.
• If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.
• Although no rigorous study has yet analyzed whether vaccinated people can spread the virus, it would be surprising if they did. “If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can’t think of one!” Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: “Please be assured that YOU ARE SAFE after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading.”
• The risks for vaccinated people are still not zero, because almost nothing in the real world is zero risk. A tiny percentage of people may have allergic reactions. And I’ll be eager to see what the studies on post-vaccination spread eventually show. But the evidence so far suggests that the vaccines are akin to a cure.
Offit told me we should be greeting them with the same enthusiasm that greeted the polio vaccine: “It should be this rallying cry.
The costs of negativity
Why are many experts conveying a more negative message?
Again, their motivations are mostly good. As academic researchers, they are instinctively cautious, prone to emphasizing any uncertainty. Many may also be nervous that vaccinated people will stop wearing masks and social distancing, which in turn could cause unvaccinated people to stop as well. If that happens, deaths would soar even higher.
But the best way to persuade people to behave safely usually involves telling them the truth. “Not being completely open because you want to achieve some sort of behavioral public health goal — people will see through that eventually,” Richterman said. The current approach also feeds anti-vaccine skepticism and conspiracy theories.
After asking Richterman and others what a better public message might sound like, I was left thinking about something like this:
We should immediately be more aggressive about mask-wearing and social distancing because of the new virus variants. We should vaccinate people as rapidly as possible — which will require approving other Covid vaccines when the data justifies it.
People who have received both of their vaccine shots, and have waited until they take effect, will be able to do things that unvaccinated people cannot — like having meals together and hugging their grandchildren. But until the pandemic is defeated, all Americans should wear masks in public, help unvaccinated people stay safe and contribute to a shared national project of saving every possible life.
Good morning. We explain why the vaccine news is better than you may think.
‘We’re underselling the vaccine’
Early in the pandemic, many health experts — in the U.S. and around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.
Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.
But the message was still a mistake.
It confused people. (If masks weren’t effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.
“When people feel as though they may not be getting the full truth from the authorities, snake-oil sellers and price gougers have an easier time,” the sociologist Zeynep Tufekci wrote early last year.
Now a version of the mask story is repeating itself — this time involving the vaccines. Once again, the experts don’t seem to trust the public to hear the full truth.
This issue is important and complex enough that I’m going to make today’s newsletter a bit longer than usual. If you still have questions, don’t hesitate to email me at themorning@nytimes.com.
‘Ridiculously encouraging’
Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They’re not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn’t change their behavior once they get their shots.
These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it’s true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.
“It’s driving me a little bit crazy,” Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.
“We’re underselling the vaccine,” Dr. Aaron Richterman, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Pennsylvania, said.
“It’s going to save your life — that’s where the emphasis has to be right now,” Dr. Peter Hotez of the Baylor College of Medicine said.
The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines are “essentially 100 percent effective against serious disease,” Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, said. “It’s ridiculously encouraging.”
The details
Here’s my best attempt at summarizing what we know:
• The Moderna and Pfizer vaccines — the only two approved in the U.S. — are among the best vaccines ever created, with effectiveness rates of about 95 percent after two doses. That’s on par with the vaccines for chickenpox and measles. And a vaccine doesn’t even need to be so effective to reduce cases sharply and crush a pandemic.
• If anything, the 95 percent number understates the effectiveness, because it counts anyone who came down with a mild case of Covid-19 as a failure. But turning Covid into a typical flu — as the vaccines evidently did for most of the remaining 5 percent — is actually a success. Of the 32,000 people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccine in a research trial, do you want to guess how many contracted a severe Covid case? One.
• Although no rigorous study has yet analyzed whether vaccinated people can spread the virus, it would be surprising if they did. “If there is an example of a vaccine in widespread clinical use that has this selective effect — prevents disease but not infection — I can’t think of one!” Dr. Paul Sax of Harvard has written in The New England Journal of Medicine. (And, no, exclamation points are not common in medical journals.) On Twitter, Dr. Monica Gandhi of the University of California, San Francisco, argued: “Please be assured that YOU ARE SAFE after vaccine from what matters — disease and spreading.”
• The risks for vaccinated people are still not zero, because almost nothing in the real world is zero risk. A tiny percentage of people may have allergic reactions. And I’ll be eager to see what the studies on post-vaccination spread eventually show. But the evidence so far suggests that the vaccines are akin to a cure.
Offit told me we should be greeting them with the same enthusiasm that greeted the polio vaccine: “It should be this rallying cry.
The costs of negativity
Why are many experts conveying a more negative message?
Again, their motivations are mostly good. As academic researchers, they are instinctively cautious, prone to emphasizing any uncertainty. Many may also be nervous that vaccinated people will stop wearing masks and social distancing, which in turn could cause unvaccinated people to stop as well. If that happens, deaths would soar even higher.
But the best way to persuade people to behave safely usually involves telling them the truth. “Not being completely open because you want to achieve some sort of behavioral public health goal — people will see through that eventually,” Richterman said. The current approach also feeds anti-vaccine skepticism and conspiracy theories.
After asking Richterman and others what a better public message might sound like, I was left thinking about something like this:
We should immediately be more aggressive about mask-wearing and social distancing because of the new virus variants. We should vaccinate people as rapidly as possible — which will require approving other Covid vaccines when the data justifies it.
People who have received both of their vaccine shots, and have waited until they take effect, will be able to do things that unvaccinated people cannot — like having meals together and hugging their grandchildren. But until the pandemic is defeated, all Americans should wear masks in public, help unvaccinated people stay safe and contribute to a shared national project of saving every possible life.
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Re: Biden Presidency
So if you me label me angry. I may sue you . How would you like that as a board moderator? Can you afford to be litigated against? Can you say defamation ? All saved for my lawyer.
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Um, calling someone angry does not give rise to a valid cause of action. Especially when it's true. I'm sure your lawyer will have fun trying to explain that to you.
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