Can the Republican Party Be Saved?

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Skid Mark wrote: Feb 22nd, '24, 07:52
easyrider16 wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 17:40 Want to see something neat? Change "left" to "right" in the above post and it still mostly works.

Seriously though, if you don't see that your team is using those same unfair and dirty tactics, you need to have your eyes examined.
Actually none of the above have been used by the right, but as VHD points out, they are fair game now.
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Skid Mark is engaging in classic Republican Pee Wee Hermanism - I know you are but what am I ?
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G-smashed wrote: Feb 22nd, '24, 09:22 Skid Mark is engaging in classic Republican Pee Wee Hermanism - I know you are but what am I ?
Always-smashed can't handle the truth
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If you really think that both sides dont do the majority of things on that list then there is no point in trying to have a intelligent conversation with you. You are either trolling or just plain stupid.
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daytripper wrote: Feb 22nd, '24, 09:42 If you really think that both sides dont do the majority of things on that list then there is no point in trying to have a intelligent conversation with you. You are either trolling or just plain stupid.
Arguing with morons is futile; they drag you down to their level and then beat you up with experience.
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Skid Mark wrote: Feb 22nd, '24, 09:30
G-smashed wrote: Feb 22nd, '24, 09:22 Skid Mark is engaging in classic Republican Pee Wee Hermanism - I know you are but what am I ?
Always-smashed can't handle the truth
I am the truth! I hope you wear your Trump sneakers and MAGA hat proudly around the spring tailgates. I wouldn't want to share any of my beers with the likes of you.
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Gonna be drinking many beers alone G Smashed. Would appear there are more Trumper Zoners than not. Plenty simply do not care that he attempted to overturn election results because he's their guy. Same folks claim to value the constitution
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Kzone does not represent the majority of K skiers, only a vocal few. Just to be clear Nobody can be smashed on what they call Goombays now unless you bring your own 151. I haven't had a good Goombay since the days of the Grist Mill. I'm still proud of my Kzone name and I think Skid Mark's name reflects who he really is.
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Skid Mark wrote: Feb 22nd, '24, 07:52 Actually none of the above have been used by the right, but as VHD points out, they are fair game now.
Oh really?

Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:56 1) When in control of the Senate, demand the end of the filibuster; when not, don’t.
Trump calls for end to filibuster - 5/30/2017
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... ilibuster/
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:56 2) Call for the end of the Electoral College–but only if it appears to recently favor the candidate of the opposition.
The democrats have never had to flip flop on this because there has never been a democrat in the last 100 years that has lost the popular vote but won the electoral college. Both of those were Republicans, hence why Republicans want to keep the EC in place. I'm sure if the roles were reversed, the positions of each party would be, too.
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:56 3) In an election year, change any state balloting laws deemed unhelpful through administrative fiat or court order to favor your political candidate.
The GOP has been busy the last four years trying to stack the deck in various ways, through both court action and changing state balloting laws. But realistically, voter suppression and gerrymandering has been practiced by both parties for well over a century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republica ... l_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_sup ... ted_States
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:564) Seek to flip electors from voting in accordance with the popular vote count in their states; indict as an insurrectionist any of the opposition who dare do the same.
This one is hilariously ironic - Trump tried to rig the electoral college by not just flipping electors, but outright replacing them with fake electors.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-indi ... n-charges/
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:565) Raid the home of any opposition ex-president who removed classified files; exempt any sitting president of your party who did the same.
Oh, was Biden exempted? Last I checked he had his private office raided and was taken to task by Hur for it in a very public, very embarrassing manner. Add to this, come on man - Trump was caught red handed. The government asked him to turn stuff over, he *lied* to them and told them he didn't have anything more, and they executed a search warrant and found the documents he lied about not having. Had he just turned over all the documents, as Biden did, there likely never would have been a search of his property, and certainly no charges.
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:56 6) Swarm the private homes of, and then bully and intimidate any, Supreme Court officials, politicians, or citizens you oppose.
Just one example - Police, FBI probe threats to Colorado judges in Trump ballot case
https://www.reuters.com/legal/denver-po ... 023-12-27/
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:567) Appoint two special counsels: one to go after the current chief presidential opponent in an election year; the other to exempt and excuse the sitting president for the very crimes charged against his rival.
Child, please. From Reagan to Clinton to the present special counsels have been appointed to investigate various presidents from both parties for decades. Nothing new here. Trump himself appointed Durham to investigate his pet theories and political opponents, and he stayed in office and continued investigating after Trump left office.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Durham
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:568) Lobby to remove any oppositional president through the 25th Amendment; smear any one as ageist who suggests a cognitively challenged sitting resident of your party should be subject to similar invocations of the 25th Amendment.
GOP lawmaker calls on Cabinet to ‘explore’ removing Biden under 25th Amendment
https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... amendment/
Skid Mark wrote: Feb 21st, '24, 13:569) Exempt thousands of arrested rioters from charges of 120 days of arson, looting, injuring 1,500 law enforcement officers, and assault—but only if they are radical supporters of your party.
Trump says he would pardon a 'large portion' of Jan. 6 rioters
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... -rcna83873

Also, this classic ditty - President Donald Trump maintained he "answered perfectly" when he said there were "very fine people on both sides" of clashes at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-d ... d=62653478

I could go on but I think I've made my point. Maybe you need to do a little more reading outside of the right-wing media which clearly isn't reliable.
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Speaking of Jan 6, check out this pinball machine at CPAC:

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Lets hear from CPAC speaker Jack Posobiec ... as he holds up a crucifix ...

https://x.com/TheBryanBaca/status/17604 ... 51751?s=20
Jack Posobiec wrote:I just wanted to say welcome to the end of democracy. We're here to overthrow it completely, we didn't get all the way there on January 6th, but we will endeavor to get rid of it and replace it with this right here, we'll replace it with this right here.
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The Christian right sounds a lot like this guy:
The noble nation should know that the entire victory was achieved through the will of almighty God and by means of transformation which came about throughout the country, and through the spirit of faith and a spirit of self-sacrifice, which was manifested in the decisive majority of the nation. Turning toward God and the unity of expression was the basis of our victory. If we forget the secret of victory and we turn away from [the Bible] and its holy teachings and if we follow the path of disunity and dissension, there is the danger that the bounty of God almighty may cease and the path may be laid open for the oppressors, and that the deceits and plots of the satanical powers may put our beloved nation in bondage and waste the pure blood which has been shed on the path of independence and freedom and spoil the hardships which our dear young and old have endured...
Can anybody guess who said that? (I'll confess I made one edit so as not to immediately give it away).
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easyrider16 wrote: Feb 22nd, '24, 18:13 The Christian right sounds a lot like this guy:
The noble nation should know that the entire victory was achieved through the will of almighty God and by means of transformation which came about throughout the country, and through the spirit of faith and a spirit of self-sacrifice, which was manifested in the decisive majority of the nation. Turning toward God and the unity of expression was the basis of our victory. If we forget the secret of victory and we turn away from [the Bible] and its holy teachings and if we follow the path of disunity and dissension, there is the danger that the bounty of God almighty may cease and the path may be laid open for the oppressors, and that the deceits and plots of the satanical powers may put our beloved nation in bondage and waste the pure blood which has been shed on the path of independence and freedom and spoil the hardships which our dear young and old have endured...
Can anybody guess who said that? (I'll confess I made one edit so as not to immediately give it away).
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Got it in one. Replace Bible with Islam.

It happened in Iran. It can happen here too.
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Has Russia really targeted and co-opted the Republican party or is all these connections to Russia just coincidental?

Who Is Konstantin Nikolaev? Putin Ally Behind Mike Johnson Campaign Donation
https://www.newsweek.com/who-konstantin ... on-1870600
In 2018, a group of Russians were able to donate to Johnson's bid for the Louisiana seat he eventually won as the money was funneled through the Texas-based American Ethane company.

“While American Ethane was co-founded by American John Houghtaling, at the time it was 88 percent owned by three Russian nationals—Konstantin Nikolaev, Mikhail Yuriev, and Andrey Kunatbaev. Nikolaev is known to be a top ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin.
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