Can the Republican Party Be Saved?

[daytripper]

But yet there are losers on this board who agree with this completely. Sad!

Most Americans see the Trump trials for what they are: Election interference. The remaining people have TDS. There is no other explanation.

That's a good one! Thanks, I needed a good laugh.

[Skid Mark]

Truly a skid mark on the underwear of society.

TDS

[makemoreturns]

You have a different strain of TDS

[XtremeJibber2001]

Meanwhile DJT has a $6B market cap (or did)... Nasdaq has placed a short-trade restriction on it ...

Trump Media auditor warns that losses 'raise substantial doubt' about company's ability to continue
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/busine ... rcna145831

The filing includes a note from an independent accounting firm, Colorado-based BF Borgers CPA PC, warning that Trump Media's "operating losses raise substantial doubt about its ability to continue as a going concern." The firm has worked with Trump Media since 2022.

[Bubba]

Trump's social media stock tumbles, erasing early gains


https://www.npr.org/2024/04/01/12420856 ... uth-social

[easyrider16]

But yet there are losers on this board who agree with this completely. Sad!

Most Americans see the Trump trials for what they are: Election interference. The remaining people have TDS. There is no other explanation.

Quick question - when Trump sent fake slates of electors and then pressured the VP to reject the legit ones and refuse to certify the election, was that election interference?

[deadheadskier]

Biden should run some adds on Truth Social

"I saw a troubling report today that yet another one of Donald's companies is doing poorly. I feel bad for him and don't want to see Donald file for bankruptcy a 7th time. So I figured I'd help him out with this ad buy.

Vote for Joe in 2024."

[easyrider16]

Just thinking a little more about this notion that Trump's legal woes are "election interference" - what do you consider to be election interference? Is the Hunter Biden prosecution also election interference? What about all these new laws the GOP recently passed regarding the conduct of elections - is that election interference? Seems to me the term can be quite broad. Anything anybody says about a candidate could be considered "election interference."

I think the question really is, what is *legitimate* election interference, and what is unfair or illegitimate election interference. As regards Trump, all of the major charges against him were put through a grand jury which found probable cause, which means an indepedent jury found reasonable grounds to believe a crime was committed. If Trump's lawyers thought there was no probable cause, they could have moved to dismiss and appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court, which holds a conservative majority. Since that didn't happen, kinda hard to argue these charges aren't legitimate. It also seems strange that if Trump is so innocent, why would he seek to delay these trials instead of rushing them forward to prove to the world these charges are bogus?

If the charges are legitimate, I don't see how they can be considered unfair election interference. No candidate for office should be immune criminal prosecution just because they're a candidate.

[Skid Mark]

But yet there are losers on this board who agree with this completely. Sad!

Most Americans see the Trump trials for what they are: Election interference. The remaining people have TDS. There is no other explanation.

Quick question - when Trump sent fake slates of electors and then pressured the VP to reject the legit ones and refuse to certify the election, was that election interference?

Whataboutism?

[Skid Mark]

Just thinking a little more about this notion that Trump's legal woes are "election interference" - what do you consider to be election interference? Is the Hunter Biden prosecution also election interference? What about all these new laws the GOP recently passed regarding the conduct of elections - is that election interference? Seems to me the term can be quite broad. Anything anybody says about a candidate could be considered "election interference."

I think the question really is, what is *legitimate* election interference, and what is unfair or illegitimate election interference. As regards Trump, all of the major charges against him were put through a grand jury which found probable cause, which means an indepedent jury found reasonable grounds to believe a crime was committed. If Trump's lawyers thought there was no probable cause, they could have moved to dismiss and appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court, which holds a conservative majority. Since that didn't happen, kinda hard to argue these charges aren't legitimate. It also seems strange that if Trump is so innocent, why would he seek to delay these trials instead of rushing them forward to prove to the world these charges are bogus?

If the charges are legitimate, I don't see how they can be considered unfair election interference. No candidate for office should be immune criminal prosecution just because they're a candidate.

As the expression goes, you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

Most of Trump's charges are extreme, never used before, stretches of the (not so) applicable laws. Add leftist AGs (James, Willis, Bragg), judges (Engoron, McAfee, Merchan) and jury pools (NYC, WDC, Fulton County), and you do not have due process. On top of that, outrageous penalties (8th ammendment anyone?) designed to cripple Trump's campaign.

If you don't admit that these cases are wrong, you must (as the corrupt old hag Hillary says) "have a willing suspension of disbelief" or you are okay with the Biden admin destroying the judicial system as long as it "GET'S TRUMP!!!"

[deadheadskier]

Hi Throbster!!

[G-smashed]

Trump must be completely destroyed by any means necessary.

[easyrider16]

As the expression goes, you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.

Ok, lets presume the grand jury is full of half wits who do whatever the prosecutor wants. What about Trump's right to move to dismiss for lack of probable cause or his right to appeal to a friendly Supreme Court?

Most of Trump's charges are extreme, never used before, stretches of the (not so) applicable laws. Add leftist AGs (James, Willis, Bragg), judges (Engoron, McAfee, Merchan) and jury pools (NYC, WDC, Fulton County), and you do not have due process. On top of that, outrageous penalties (8th ammendment anyone?) designed to cripple Trump's campaign.

Well, that depends on the charges we're talking about, as all these cases are different. Nobody has ever tried to steal an election the way Trump did, so of course the charges related to that conduct are novel. As for the classified documents charges, those have been made previously against numerous defendants who were convicted and sentenced to prison for pretty much the same thing Trump did. I'll agree with you on some of the stuff happening in New York, but to me those are the weakest cases.

The biased jury pool argument is oft repeated, but it ignores two things: 1) Trump's lawyers get to participate in picking a jury and getting rid of people who are biased; and 2) these jurisdictions contain large numbers who are right-wing or right-leaning. Consider D.C. has about 28% of the population that lean Republican, but getting a conviction requires 100% of the jurors to agree. All it takes to acquit is for Trump to get one friendly or favorable juror.

Also, they're not all leftist judges - Aileen Cannon was appointed by Trump himself. Yet that case hasn't been dismissed, has it?

If you don't admit that these cases are wrong, you must (as the corrupt old hag Hillary says) "have a willing suspension of disbelief" or you are okay with the Biden admin destroying the judicial system as long as it "GET'S TRUMP!!!"

Only a Sith deals in absolutes... no, just kidding. I evaluate these cases individually based on the facts, and on that basis the federal cases seem legitimate. Oh and I think you give Biden far too much credit - he certainly doesn't have the ability to destroy the judicial system, especially when his political opponents hold a majority on the highest court in the land.

[XtremeJibber2001]

Abbott's Operation Lonestar is off to a great start ...

Texas National Guard Soldier Caught Smuggling Migrant
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-soldier- ... nt-1886517

A Texas National Guard solider was reportedly arrested on Sunday after allegedly trying to smuggle an illegal immigrant across the border in a government vehicle, according to NewsNation's Ali Bradley.

The situation at the U.S.-Mexico border has grown more dire as the number of illegal migrant crossings has spiked in recent years. Since the start of fiscal 2024, which began in October, there have been 1,151,448 U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) encounters.

Bradley, who covers the southern border, reported on Wednesday in a post on X, formerly Twitter, that the solider, who was reportedly deployed from McAllen to Eagle Pass under Operation Lone Star, was "busted" for smuggling.

"Kinney County Sheriff Brad Coe says the soldier turned around when he approached a pop-up tactical Border Patrol checkpoint off 674 in Kinney County that had only been operational for a few days—The behavior alerting agents who attempted to stop the suv—The sheriff says Texas DPS [Department of Public Safety] got involved with the pursuit and used spike strips which ultimately stopped the vehicle," Bradley wrote.

[easyrider16]

Also, they're not all leftist judges - Aileen Cannon was appointed by Trump himself. Yet that case hasn't been dismissed, has it?

In point of fact, Judge Cannon just denied Trump's motion to dismiss.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics ... index.html

Perhaps this case is not illegitimate or merely an attempt to influence the election if even a Trump-appointed, right-wing judge refuses to dismiss it.