Re: Can the Republican Party Be Saved?
Posted: Apr 16th, '24, 14:31
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Harumph!easyrider16 wrote: ↑Apr 16th, '24, 13:52 What does this post have to do with the topic of this thread, or anything posted in it? And who said Biden was a man of character? Did anybody above make that claim? I certainly didn't.
Ha! DJT has a chance of being breaking the record for shortest time between IPO and delisting (currently at 10 months)!deadheadskier wrote: ↑Apr 16th, '24, 17:49 How's that DJT stock of yours doing Throbster?
Still no explanation for your handle change..... though the new one is quite fitting for you
As expected, and with some irony, right-wing media savaged him for these comments.“Reacher” star Alan Ritchson is receiving a whole lot of attention for some harsh words he had for Donald Trump and his devotees.
During an interview with The Hollywood Reporter published earlier this month, the action star explained why he’s confused by Christians who support the former president.
“Christians today have become the most vitriolic tribe,” said Ritchson, who himself identifies as a follower of Jesus. “It is so antithetical to what Jesus was calling us to be and to do.”
“Trump is a rapist and a con man,” he went on, “And yet the entire Christian church seems to be treat him like he’s their poster child and it’s unreal. I don’t understand it.”
It's because MAGA is a cult. A cult that puts Trump above Jesus Christ. It's totally wild and they absolutely cannot see it.easyrider16 wrote: ↑Apr 17th, '24, 07:20 Having watched and enjoyed the show, I thought these comments worth mentioning:
As expected, and with some irony, right-wing media savaged him for these comments.“Reacher” star Alan Ritchson is receiving a whole lot of attention for some harsh words he had for Donald Trump and his devotees.
During an interview with The Hollywood Reporter published earlier this month, the action star explained why he’s confused by Christians who support the former president.
“Christians today have become the most vitriolic tribe,” said Ritchson, who himself identifies as a follower of Jesus. “It is so antithetical to what Jesus was calling us to be and to do.”
“Trump is a rapist and a con man,” he went on, “And yet the entire Christian church seems to be treat him like he’s their poster child and it’s unreal. I don’t understand it.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/right ... r-BB1lJxoA
This is exactly what Trump does. His speeches contain almost no data, very little substantive content, and most of his facts are made up off the cuff. His supporters don't care because it's not about the substance. It's about how he makes them feel.“You tell ’em too much. Just tell ’em you’re gonna soak the fat boys, and forget the rest of the tax stuff.”
“What we need is a balanced tax program. Right now the ratio between income tax and total income for the state gives an index that—”
“Yeah,” I said, “I heard the speech. But they don’t give a damn about that. Hell, make ’em cry, make ’em laugh, make ’em think you’re their weak erring pal, or make ’em think you’re God-Almighty. Or make ’em mad. Even mad at you. Just stir ’em up, it doesn’t matter how or why, and they’ll love you and come back for more. Pinch ’em in the soft place. They aren’t alive, most of ’em, and haven’t been alive in twenty years. Hell, their wives have lost their teeth and their shape, and likker won’t set on their stomachs, and they don’t believe in God, so it’s up to you to give ’em something to stir ’em up and make ’em feel alive again. Just for half an hour. That’s what they come for. Tell ’em anything. But for Sweet Jesus’ sake don’t try to improve their minds.”
That's because their belief is not based on facts or reason. It's based on how he makes them feel. You have to know that on some level people like Throbster and/or Skid Mark have realized that Trump lied about the election being stolen. But that doesn't really matter to them - how he makes them feel matters more. So they choose to believe him even when their reason is trying to tell them that he's lying.deadheadskier wrote: ↑Apr 17th, '24, 15:36 The cultism is not the support he has from the very basic language he uses. It's the belief that everything he says is true and everyone else are the liars despite overwhelming evidence pointing to Trump's lies.
People believe him when he said he won the election even though no evidence has been presented. People believe him that January 6th was largely a peaceful rally, when we all watched on live television that it was anything but that.
If you can credit Trump with anything, it's with being really good at stirring people up and making them feel emotional. I agree, there are not many politicians around today who are as good at it as Trump, and it helps that he really has no scruples, freeing him to say whatever he needs to say to win their approval. But historically, take a guy like William Jennings Bryan, who was nominated over and over again by the democratic party even though he kept losing.deadheadskier wrote: ↑Apr 17th, '24, 15:36Nevermind that people make being a Trumper part of their personal identity like no other politician in history. What other candidates in the past had people practically turning their homes, cars, boats etc into practical shrines worshipping them? No one in American politics that I've seen in my 48 years.
Stephanoupoulos: "So just to sum up, you support him for president even if he’s convicted for classified documents. You support him for president even though you believe he contributed to an insurrection. You support him for president even though you believe he’s lying about the last election. You support him for president even if he’s convicted in the Manhattan case. I just want to say the answer to that is yes, correct.”
Sununu: “Yeah, me and 51 percent of America.”