Is it just a little ironic Trump Org's lawyer also represented the Colombo, Gambino, and Genovese families?The indictment charges Trump Org, Trump Payroll Corp. and Weisselberg. Prosecutors described a 15-year tax scheme and said the charges include 15 felony counts, including a scheme to defraud, conspiracy, grand larceny and falsifying business records
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Political witch hunt. Another waste of tax payer money on a nothing burger.
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Correct this is a huge nothing burger
Another democrat strong arm of a private citizen to intimidate and force them into lying against president Trump. Democrats are filthy liars.
Another democrat strong arm of a private citizen to intimidate and force them into lying against president Trump. Democrats are filthy liars.
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Cy Vance let Epstein go on reduced charges. BTWXtremeJibber2001 wrote: ↑Jul 1st, '21, 14:04Is it just a little ironic Trump Org's lawyer also represented the Colombo, Gambino, and Genovese families?The indictment charges Trump Org, Trump Payroll Corp. and Weisselberg. Prosecutors described a 15-year tax scheme and said the charges include 15 felony counts, including a scheme to defraud, conspiracy, grand larceny and falsifying business records
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Allegedly evading taxes in the amount of $1.76 Million dollars is a nothing burger?
I suggest you boys try and do the same and let us know how it works out for you
I suggest you boys try and do the same and let us know how it works out for you
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Biden made ten times that threatening China
That is chump change compared to Hunter Biden and his millions of bribes
That is chump change compared to Hunter Biden and his millions of bribes
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Clinton’s laughing at 1.7 million
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Well the email lady hasn't been indicted here John. But one of Trump's top employees has.
Get back to us when she, Biden or Hunter get indicted.
Get back to us when she, Biden or Hunter get indicted.
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Revised opinion now that we have an actual indictment: the indictment alleges that the Trump org kept two sets of books for 15 years, one for their internal use and one they showed the IRS. This is more serious because it implicates the company, not just the employee receiving benefits, in a deliberate scheme to defraud the government for 15 years. If proved, this is blatant tax fraud. Not good, and puts Trump in danger if they can show he knew about it.
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That's his point numbnuts. We have two justice systems.deadheadskier wrote: ↑Jul 1st, '21, 20:47 Well the email lady hasn't been indicted here John. But one of Trump's top employees has.
Get back to us when she, Biden or Hunter get indicted.
A 3 year investigation, including a review of Trump's tax returns, comes up with minor charges. What a joke.
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I don’t think the charges are minor, but it’s an ongoing investigation so I guess we’ll see.throbster wrote: ↑Jul 2nd, '21, 07:08That's his point numbnuts. We have two justice systems.deadheadskier wrote: ↑Jul 1st, '21, 20:47 Well the email lady hasn't been indicted here John. But one of Trump's top employees has.
Get back to us when she, Biden or Hunter get indicted.
A 3 year investigation, including a review of Trump's tax returns, comes up with minor charges. What a joke.
As for the two justice systems, I don’t think that’s accurate. I think GOP conveniently ignore investigations that don’t yield the results they’re seeking.
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Further, Sessions and Barr could have pursued Hillary further and chose not to. Lastly, Trump after being elected said he wasn’t going to pursue charges against Hillary to help her “heal”.WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. Justice Department inquiry into Republican allegations of misconduct at the department and the FBI, including its handling of investigations related to 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, effectively ended without tangible results, the Washington Post reported on Thursday.
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If there are two justice systems, it's one for the rich and one for the poor. The fact that an underling rather than Trump was charged tells you all you need to know about that. If it were any other poor schlub of a business owner keeping two sets of books, they'd have charged him already. But because Trump is a billionaire with access to the best lawyers, they won't bring charges against him until they are rock solid and bulletproof.
If you're interested in more info, here's the actual indictment:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... tment.html
Here's the penal code the Trump org is accused of violating:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/190.65
This would be a class E felony, with a minimum sentence of a slap-on-the-wrist and a maximum of 5 years jail time. In theory, 15 counts sentenced to the max with consecutive sentences could result in a maximum of 75 years of jail time, though that is highly unlikely. I do think jail time is very possible in a case like this but you're talking maybe a year or two at most, with straight probation being a strong possibility as well. It depends on how good the evidence is and how egregious the facts are.
If you want further evidence of how biased the system is against poor people, consider why a rich person crime like a scheme to cheat on taxes involving hundreds of thousands if not millions is only a class E felony with a max of 5 years in prison, but poor people crime like grand larceny is a class C felony with a max of 15 years in prison. Both are mere crimes of property involving similar amounts of money, but the one poor people do most often can be punished three times more harshly than the one rich people do most often.
I also find it ironic that all these "law and order" Trump supporter types are suddenly not about law and order when their own guy gets investigated for tax fraud.
If you're interested in more info, here's the actual indictment:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... tment.html
Here's the penal code the Trump org is accused of violating:
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/190.65
This would be a class E felony, with a minimum sentence of a slap-on-the-wrist and a maximum of 5 years jail time. In theory, 15 counts sentenced to the max with consecutive sentences could result in a maximum of 75 years of jail time, though that is highly unlikely. I do think jail time is very possible in a case like this but you're talking maybe a year or two at most, with straight probation being a strong possibility as well. It depends on how good the evidence is and how egregious the facts are.
If you want further evidence of how biased the system is against poor people, consider why a rich person crime like a scheme to cheat on taxes involving hundreds of thousands if not millions is only a class E felony with a max of 5 years in prison, but poor people crime like grand larceny is a class C felony with a max of 15 years in prison. Both are mere crimes of property involving similar amounts of money, but the one poor people do most often can be punished three times more harshly than the one rich people do most often.
I also find it ironic that all these "law and order" Trump supporter types are suddenly not about law and order when their own guy gets investigated for tax fraud.
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Fun facts for context. Leona Helmsley was convicted of a similar tax-fraud-scheme in the late 80's and got 19 months for it. Ironically, it was Guiliani who prosecuted her.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... d=msedgntp
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/ ... d=msedgntp
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Now do Federal tax crimes.easyrider16 wrote: ↑Jul 2nd, '21, 07:20This would be a class E felony, with a minimum sentence of a slap-on-the-wrist and a maximum of 5 years jail time. In theory, 15 counts sentenced to the max with consecutive sentences could result in a maximum of 75 years of jail time, though that is highly unlikely. I do think jail time is very possible in a case like this but you're talking maybe a year or two at most, with straight probation being a strong possibility as well. It depends on how good the evidence is and how egregious the facts are.
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I believe this indictment is for violations of the NY penal code, not Federal laws. However, I don't think federal tax crimes are all that differently punished. 26 U.S. Code § 7201 says 5 years max for attempting to evade income tax. I'm no expert in this area, however.